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Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:10 pm      Reply with quote
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mlrox - below is a list of the sunscreens I have personally tried this year.

Marie Veronique Creme de Soleil SPF 30


I'm using the Pratima SPF right now but wondered how the Marie Veronique one compares? I also liked the Osmosis SPF.


Havana8 - I was expecting great results from the Marie Veronique Creme de Soleil, but unfortunately, it did not work for me. I have what I consider a normal skin type - - not too dry and not too oily. Creme de Soleil does contain an impressive list of ingredients, but I found it to be too drying. I would expect it to work well for those with oily skin. It was also somewhat difficult to apply and it did leave a noticeable whiteness/dullness on my face. Also, I did not care for the natural herbal-like fragrance. Compared to Creme de Soleil, Pratima is much easier to apply, is better absorbed by the skin, feels lighter on the skin and does not leave any noticeable whiteness on the face. The Creme de Soleil is a good product, but it just did not work for me.


Does anyone know the particle size of the Pratima Neem sunscreen? ie nano/microionized etc. Thanks.
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Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:17 am      Reply with quote
m1rox wrote:
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mlrox - below is a list of the sunscreens I have personally tried this year.

Marie Veronique Creme de Soleil SPF 30


I'm using the Pratima SPF right now but wondered how the Marie Veronique one compares? I also liked the Osmosis SPF.


Havana8 - I was expecting great results from the Marie Veronique Creme de Soleil, but unfortunately, it did not work for me. I have what I consider a normal skin type - - not too dry and not too oily. Creme de Soleil does contain an impressive list of ingredients, but I found it to be too drying. I would expect it to work well for those with oily skin. It was also somewhat difficult to apply and it did leave a noticeable whiteness/dullness on my face. Also, I did not care for the natural herbal-like fragrance. Compared to Creme de Soleil, Pratima is much easier to apply, is better absorbed by the skin, feels lighter on the skin and does not leave any noticeable whiteness on the face. The Creme de Soleil is a good product, but it just did not work for me.


Does anyone know the particle size of the Pratima Neem sunscreen? ie nano/microionized etc. Thanks.


The Pratima website says "micronized Zinc Oxide (18.6%)". You may want to call or e-mail them for additional info.
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Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:32 am      Reply with quote
stellarfungi, what a great topic! thank you for starting it!

I`m unterested in UV Natural SPF 30+ - 24.8% zinc oxide. Has anybody tried it? what is it like? texture? residue? oiliness?

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Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:49 am      Reply with quote
Okay, here's my notepad on MUA with the names, prices and ingredients of pretty much every single zinc-only sunscreen I can find:

http://makeupalley.com/user/notepad/zincsunscreens


If you don't have an MUA account, you can read it here:

http://www.geocities.com/oahustew/zinc.html




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I`m unterested in UV Natural SPF 30+ - 24.8% zinc oxide. Has anybody tried it? what is it like? texture? residue? oiliness?



This is one of the many, many, waterless zinc-only sunscreens. It's extremely thick and heavy because it consists of a variety of oils and butters.
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I`m unterested in UV Natural SPF 30+ - 24.8% zinc oxide. Has anybody tried it? what is it like? texture? residue? oiliness?



This is one of the many, many, waterless zinc-only sunscreens. It's extremely thick and heavy because it consists of a variety of oils and butters.


I thought it was horrible. It is very thick, like putting paste on your face and it does not sink in. One of the worst sunscreens I have tried!
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Instead of UV Naturals, you may wish to try the Natural Instinct sunblock. Although it is thick and pasty but it is not oily and gives a matte finish. It sinks into the skin nicely too. And there is hardly any white cast (I am fair skinned though). Many thanks to stellarfungi who recommended it on makeupalley.

I was also going to try the Burnout sunscreen at some stage as I'm interested to order the zinc oxide lip sunscreens. I have been informed that the lip sunscreens are also 18.6% zinc oxide (info from the company via email).
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Instead of UV Naturals, you may wish to try the Natural Instinct sunblock. Although it is thick and pasty but it is not oily and gives a matte finish. It sinks into the skin nicely too. And there is hardly any white cast (I am fair skinned though). Many thanks to stellarfungi who recommended it on makeupalley.

I was also going to try the Burnout sunscreen at some stage as I'm interested to order the zinc oxide lip sunscreens. I have been informed that the lip sunscreens are also 18.6% zinc oxide (info from the company via email).


Is it OK to ingest zinc oxide?
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Zinc oxide is used as a food additive. It is on the US FDA category of GRAS ("generally regarded as safe"). You can check it on wikipedia.org. If you find good evidence that it is unsafe for use in lip product, please post it here so that we can all learn.

I am not keen to ingest OCTINOXATE which is the ingredient most commonly used to provide SPF in lip sunscreens.

Is there any other alternative for a lip sunscreen?

Or do you think it might be safer not to use ANY SPF product on the lips?
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Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:21 pm      Reply with quote
It's ok to digest a little zinc oxide, it's in some vitamins! Smile

I think it's usually ok to just use whatever sunscreen you're using on your face on your lips too. But- the facial sunscreen that's totally awesome on the lips is NCN's zinclear sunscreen. It's her original formula that's super rich. It's too rich for my face but it's perfect for my lips. It also has 25% zinc oxide, so I'm confident that it's protecting me.

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Nimue: Nanci has changed the formulation of her Zinclear sunscreen?
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Nimue: Nanci has changed the formulation of her Zinclear sunscreen?


Oh no, she's just working on making it less rich and more matte but she's definitely going to continue to provide the original rich version no matter what since so many people love it and this is what I'm referring to. So eventually she'll have more than 1 versions, and the original one will just be labelled the richest version or something like that.

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I was also going to try the Burnout sunscreen at some stage as I'm interested to order the zinc oxide lip sunscreens. I have been informed that the lip sunscreens are also 18.6% zinc oxide (info from the company via email).


Hey, I've used this too and LOVED it. The Eco-Sensitive Zinc Oxide SPF 32, that is. They have a new sunscreen with 18.6% zinc oxide that has hemp oil in it that I haven't tried. The Zinc Oxide SPF 32 felt heavy but was fully matte, which is what I look for in a sunscreen.
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I was also going to try the Burnout sunscreen at some stage as I'm interested to order the zinc oxide lip sunscreens. I have been informed that the lip sunscreens are also 18.6% zinc oxide (info from the company via email).


Hey, I've used this too and LOVED it. The Eco-Sensitive Zinc Oxide SPF 32, that is. They have a new sunscreen with 18.6% zinc oxide that has hemp oil in it that I haven't tried. The Zinc Oxide SPF 32 felt heavy but was fully matte, which is what I look for in a sunscreen.


Hi how does the Burnout Eco-sensitive compare with Natural Instinct SPF30+? I really like the Natural Instinct (based on your recommendation in makeupalley - thanks). But on occasions I find it a bit drying on some parts of my skin (I have combination skin).
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Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:11 am      Reply with quote
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Heiko SPF 40 Kids - 25% zinc oxide
Heiko SPF 30 - 14% zinc oxide
Heiko SPF 40 - 18% zinc oxide


which is tinted?
which is clear?
which leaves a white cast?
And most of all which is least drying?
Zinc oxide is quite drying from what i read
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Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:09 pm      Reply with quote
I love Thinkbaby Safe Sunscreen SPF 50+ - I've been using it for over a year now. It's got 20% zinc oxide.
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Has anyone used neova dna damage repair spf 44?
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I like this one from PC. 13% zinc oxide. In the winter, I apply moisturizer under it.

http://www.paulaschoice.com/shop/skin-care-categories/sun-protection/_/Resist-Super-Light-Daily-Wrinkle-Defense-SPF-30/

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I'd like to try the burnout but can't get in the u.k, tried looking on amazon but will not ship to my address can anyone recommend a high zinc option thats easily available here.

Was thinking clinique city block 40 is that any good? it only seems to have a 9.6 zinc content Sad
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Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:27 pm      Reply with quote
Zinc Oxide in the PC are nanoparticles which are weak in UVA protection.
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Zinc Oxide in the PC are nanoparticles which are weak in UVA protection.


How did you determine they use nanoparticles?
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summer2004 wrote:
Zinc Oxide in the PC are nanoparticles which are weak in UVA protection.


How did you determine they use nanoparticles?


Here you are:

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?p=6528858&highlight=#6528858
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Any thoughts on this? it would be great if the spf had been higher.

http://www.ultrabeehealth.co.uk/product-natural-sun-screen-with-honey--virgin-coconut-oil-200ml.html

Not sure, this looks like it might be in stick form

http://www.ultrabeehealth.co.uk/product-natural-face-sun-block-with-honey-avocado-oil-spf50-100ml.html
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I'd like to try the burnout but can't get in the u.k......


It seems that Burnout ships to U.K.

Go to the webpage of Burnout; create and account and place an order there.
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summer2004 wrote:
Pandax12 wrote:
summer2004 wrote:
Zinc Oxide in the PC are nanoparticles which are weak in UVA protection.


How did you determine they use nanoparticles?


Here you are:

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?p=6528858&highlight=#6528858


The UK site also say's it's 12% zinc instead of 13%
If I was interested in using this sunscreen which I'm not (too pricey, too low zinc%) I'd contact PC personally and ask them if they use nano or not. I have a strong feeling they would say they do not.
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