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Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:17 pm  |
| khaleesi wrote: |
| pokerlady888 wrote: |
| Wanted to also quickly ask if you ever used coconut oil? On face or body? And ever eaten it? |
you just reminded me when i first started my skincare coconut oil is what i used as a moisturiser and i was breaking out still so i stopped thinking it was the coconut oil but ive had acne since so i dont think it was but could have been enhancing the problem possibly? |
I'm not sure. But I have tried coconut oil on my skin. It works pretty ok on my body, but I noticed I couldn't use it everyday maybe once every 3 or 4 days. On my face, I thought it created some new bumps so I thought it was clogging my skin, but because I have so many bumps I can't be too sure if it was clogging it or if I started imagining it was and those bumps I thought were new may have been there all along...
I have used products which contain derivatives of coconut oil and had no problems...in fact I think they help! So I don't get it if I can use processed forms of coconut oil but not the actual coconut oil...guess the regular form is too clogging somehow. But it must be helpful for some reason which I can think of is toward killing bacteria, fungus, yeast, anything. |
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Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:25 pm |
I forgot to mention something else too. A dermatologist gave me clindamycin phosphate 1% lotion to put on first on some keratosis pilaris on the back of my legs and then lactic acid 10% (or maybe it was 12%) lotion to put on after the clindamycin. My keratosis pilaris went away significantly. And quite quicly. I stopped using it. Then like a year or so later I tried lactic acid lotion on it's own...didn't do anything. Which was odd...
I wonder if the clindamycin phosphate was killing something off on the skin.
What must be the reason it worked is that bacteria or something was being killed off and then the exfoliation was further helping...the combo approach worked rather than one product on it's own. |
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Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:23 pm |
Cant some mites cause rosacea? Do you think it could be that for you? Hmm i might start in taking things that are useful to kill bacteria...ive just started drinking lemon and water in the morning might do it in the evenings too and see if that helps at all. It probably wouldnt be enough but i think il start in small steps to see what can help. Maybe even taken a probiotic to help make sure there is enough good bacteria in the system too?
Shame about the soap! Hmm well urea is meant to be exfoliating or keeping the dead skin softened, i would have thought this would help stop the bumps but maybe its not as strong as say an AHA. Which one did you try? I got the replenishing night one 5% urea, just trialing it on my arm at the moment to see how my skin copes with it. I have so many products i could trial its ridiculous!
The glycolic acid can be quite strong, i tried the 10% from paula's choice and it really does help the bumps but by the next day they are back to normal again. Plus is stung at first and think its something i wouldnt want to use more than once every few weeks and same for the 5% glycolic one she has aswell they causing the edge of my pores to swell a tiny bit so i think i might not have a good reaction to that because im quite sensitive, it could work for you though, thats the thing we are all different. It's whats put me off carrying on with it and the same goes with the BHA 1% lotion. I find that one makes me feel a little dry and the bumps werent reduced much at all. It's so hard to know what to do for the best but i was worried i was over sensitizing my skin so ive stopped using that now and waiting for the PHA one to come.
And i know the PHA one from Neostrata is recommended for those starting off trying any type of acid on the skin. So it could really be worth giving a go!
I was also reading someone on acne.org used some kind of fungal shampoo or something on their face a few times a week to keep bumps down or something, so that's another thing to consider. And no ive never tried sulfur although i do think at college (i did beauty therapy) i think someone put a bit of sulfur mixed with something on my spots and it stung :/ I hope im right in thinking its sulfur lol I dont know enough about that ingredient though 
Well from reading about the composition of oils the other day ones high in oleic acid can be irritating to the skin and i think coconut oil had a higher content of that over linoleic acid which is meant to sooth the skin a bit more plus the oleic acid is meant to clog easier.
The bleach bath sounds interesting but i wouldnt dare do that personally lol I actually might give the anti fungal shampoo a go on my other arm to see if that works. Maybe not right now, got too many things at the moment. Well looking at clindamycin phosphate on google the top searches came up with acne and vaginal thrush! So maybe it was a yeast causing the KP? Btw you asked about have i used benzoyl peroxide and answer is no because i heard it can really dry out the skin so its not something i fancied doing to my skin  although its meant to work great, it makes me wish my skin was oily lol have you tried it or would you consider it? |
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Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:27 pm |
| Oh another little fact about me is i have a very slow digestive system! And you can probably imagine where im going with this lol Just a few times week if you know what i mean...I wonder if this has anything to do with it? |
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Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:34 pm |
| oh also KP can be from lacking in vitamin A and D, funnily i dont get alot of sun im an indoors type girl and i have no idea if im eating enough vitamin A although i had my blood tested for any deficiencies months ago and i came back fine for everything. Have you thought about this yourself? |
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Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:52 pm |
| khaleesi wrote: |
| oh also KP can be from lacking in vitamin A and D, funnily i dont get alot of sun im an indoors type girl and i have no idea if im eating enough vitamin A although i had my blood tested for any deficiencies months ago and i came back fine for everything. Have you thought about this yourself? |
Yes KP can be from those things. When I go out in the sun my skin on face neck and everywhere gets smoother but it doesn't last so long. I've taken vitamin a supplements too and I had it tested and I'm fine. But I've also taken vitamin d supplements and been tested and I'm fine. No supplements worked for me and I took for a long time. Have you tried retin-a on your face? I have not, but have been using creams that contain retinyl-palmitate a form or vitamin a but it's probably too small of a dose, but I haven't seen a difference. I've found Skintimate shave gel- the pink bottle for sensitive dry skin that contains vitamin e is great for my KP on body so I use that in the shower. I tried it on my face once but stopped cause my face got very dry...guess it's too drying for the facial skin. I honesty don't think it's a vitamin issue. Personally, I do think KP is a bacterial issue hence why I think my dermatologist gave me the clindamycin phosphate. |
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Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:53 pm |
| pokerlady888 wrote: |
| khaleesi wrote: |
| oh also KP can be from lacking in vitamin A and D, funnily i dont get alot of sun im an indoors type girl and i have no idea if im eating enough vitamin A although i had my blood tested for any deficiencies months ago and i came back fine for everything. Have you thought about this yourself? |
Yes KP can be from those things they say, but could be different I guess for each person. When I go out in the sun my skin on face neck and everywhere gets smoother but it doesn't last so long. I've taken vitamin a supplements too and I had it tested and I'm fine. But I've also taken vitamin d supplements and been tested and I'm fine. No supplements worked for me and I took for a long time. Have you tried retin-a on your face? I have not, but have been using creams that contain retinyl-palmitate a form or vitamin a but it's probably too small of a dose, but I haven't seen a difference. I've found Skintimate shave gel- the pink bottle for sensitive dry skin that contains vitamin e is great for my KP on body so I use that in the shower. I tried it on my face once but stopped cause my face got very dry...guess it's too drying for the facial skin. I honesty don't think it's a vitamin issue. Personally for me, I do think KP is a bacterial issue hence why I think my dermatologist gave me the clindamycin phosphate. |
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Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:56 pm |
| khaleesi wrote: |
| Oh another little fact about me is i have a very slow digestive system! And you can probably imagine where im going with this lol Just a few times week if you know what i mean...I wonder if this has anything to do with it? |
I had this issue for years until recently I started adding fiber - I have a snack of a Fiber One bar with 20 or maybe its 30 grams of fiber (can't remember the exact grams right now) everyday and now I go nicely and regularly
My digestive system was not the best. I have been told many times by doctors that I have acid reflux, but it's not so bad like most people who have it. I eat a yogurt or two a day to help with my digestive tract. I think it helps. |
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Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:11 pm |
I was using the retinol reface on my forehead which didnt help then i tried it on my face but around the time i used the vitamin c serum too and thats when i had loads of those bumps come up again ( this was a few weeks ago) so not sure what was going on there unless i was maybe purging?
Maybe you just need bacteria and fungal treatments to give a go? Or maybe its something like candida overgrowth and you could possibly try a candida cleanse and see how that goes?
I just got the Neostrata cream today and tried it on my arm, didnt react so i put it on my forehead it felt a little tight i was expecting it to be more moisturising so i just put some normal cream over it after about 10 minutes. Seems ok so far no irritation as far as i can tell. Probably will use it twice a week and up it until i feel the need to cut it down. Hopefully this gradual gentle exfoliate may help? |
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Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:25 pm |
| khaleesi wrote: |
Cant some mites cause rosacea? Do you think it could be that for you? Hmm i might start in taking things that are useful to kill bacteria...ive just started drinking lemon and water in the morning might do it in the evenings too and see if that helps at all. It probably wouldnt be enough but i think il start in small steps to see what can help. Maybe even taken a probiotic to help make sure there is enough good bacteria in the system too?
Shame about the soap! Hmm well urea is meant to be exfoliating or keeping the dead skin softened, i would have thought this would help stop the bumps but maybe its not as strong as say an AHA. Which one did you try? I got the replenishing night one 5% urea, just trialing it on my arm at the moment to see how my skin copes with it. I have so many products i could trial its ridiculous!
The glycolic acid can be quite strong, i tried the 10% from paula's choice and it really does help the bumps but by the next day they are back to normal again. Plus is stung at first and think its something i wouldnt want to use more than once every few weeks and same for the 5% glycolic one she has aswell they causing the edge of my pores to swell a tiny bit so i think i might not have a good reaction to that because im quite sensitive, it could work for you though, thats the thing we are all different. It's whats put me off carrying on with it and the same goes with the BHA 1% lotion. I find that one makes me feel a little dry and the bumps werent reduced much at all. It's so hard to know what to do for the best but i was worried i was over sensitizing my skin so ive stopped using that now and waiting for the PHA one to come.
And i know the PHA one from Neostrata is recommended for those starting off trying any type of acid on the skin. So it could really be worth giving a go!
I was also reading someone on acne.org used some kind of fungal shampoo or something on their face a few times a week to keep bumps down or something, so that's another thing to consider. And no ive never tried sulfur although i do think at college (i did beauty therapy) i think someone put a bit of sulfur mixed with something on my spots and it stung :/ I hope im right in thinking its sulfur lol I dont know enough about that ingredient though
Well from reading about the composition of oils the other day ones high in oleic acid can be irritating to the skin and i think coconut oil had a higher content of that over linoleic acid which is meant to sooth the skin a bit more plus the oleic acid is meant to clog easier.
The bleach bath sounds interesting but i wouldnt dare do that personally lol I actually might give the anti fungal shampoo a go on my other arm to see if that works. Maybe not right now, got too many things at the moment. Well looking at clindamycin phosphate on google the top searches came up with acne and vaginal thrush! So maybe it was a yeast causing the KP? Btw you asked about have i used benzoyl peroxide and answer is no because i heard it can really dry out the skin so its not something i fancied doing to my skin although its meant to work great, it makes me wish my skin was oily lol have you tried it or would you consider it? |
According to chinese doctors mites can cause any skin disorder...as can bacteria. No, I don't have that. I definitely hae done probiotics before, I'm thinking of doing them again. But I kind of like just having yogurt to get my probiotics. I tried a urea cream with 12% lol! I can't remember what Eucerin product I had tried but I think it was not the same as the one you mention. Oh gosh, i have sooooo many products too it's insane. I've spent thousand at least.
Excited to hear about the PHA and how it works out for you!!
I did the fungal shampoo lol. It didn't help much. The face got very dry Putting on your arms should be fine though. I tried a ketaconazole shampoo from doctor prescription and also head and shoulder and I believe i tried selsun blue too.
I want to use sulfur again. I did but only shortly. I want to do a sulfur mask. It's good for the skin, good for acne, and might help with the bumps since sulfur is antifungal and antibacterial. Sulfur is in Demodex Solutions products which I've used and really liked their zhou zhou cream. It made the bumps go down by morning but I didn't stick with the cream long enough....at the time I was hopping around from one product to the next cause I guess I wanted instant satisfaction lol. I'm thinking of this being something I try again sometime after I'm done with some other things I have to try.
Exactly why I wonder if KP is a yeast issue. Plus, I have candida so would make sense. You might have candida and not know it yourself. Do you get yeast infections often? That childhood doctor told my mom when I was little that I have candida and yeast in my body and am prone to fungal and yeast infections. In fact, I recently had some crawling sensations going on on my body and face...very slight but I was again wondering what could be causing it and I happened to have gotten a yeast infection and I ignored it for a few days because I kept forgetting to treat it lol and once I did start treating it (I used yogurt first since I couldn't get to the store but now I have monistat), the crawling feelings have gone away. Makes me wonder if when yeast issues in my body are acting up it causes the crawling feelers i don't know.
I've been thinking of trying benzoyl peroxide but it frightens me. A dermatologist told me maybe I'm allergic to it, but I don't know. We never did an allergy test. I have used proactive before though when I was younger and I had no problem, but who knows. Kind of scared like you to use that stuff so it may be my very very last resort ever lol. Especially since it dries the skin so much...
Could make sense about the coconut oil. Definitely going to stay away from it on the skin. I don't plan to try the bleach bath either, freaks me out, but I just was pointing out that it's interesting how it helps people with eczema...something must be dying off on the skin from the bleach. |
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Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:36 pm |
| khaleesi wrote: |
I was using the retinol reface on my forehead which didnt help then i tried it on my face but around the time i used the vitamin c serum too and thats when i had loads of those bumps come up again ( this was a few weeks ago) so not sure what was going on there unless i was maybe purging?
Maybe you just need bacteria and fungal treatments to give a go? Or maybe its something like candida overgrowth and you could possibly try a candida cleanse and see how that goes?
I just got the Neostrata cream today and tried it on my arm, didnt react so i put it on my forehead it felt a little tight i was expecting it to be more moisturising so i just put some normal cream over it after about 10 minutes. Seems ok so far no irritation as far as i can tell. Probably will use it twice a week and up it until i feel the need to cut it down. Hopefully this gradual gentle exfoliate may help? |
I guess I could try a candida cleanse. I just kind of worry because I finally am at a great place internally I think and just worry anything I try to cause imbalance and mess it up.
Keep me posted on the PHA! What cream did you put on top of it?
I've noticed citric acid (vitamin c) makes my skin break out too in the bumps.
I do think that when we finally get on something that works for our skin, the bumps will probably need to come to a head first like a pimple...which is scary cause that's like a hundred pimples lol. Some of the bumps I have get inflamed depending on something I use and seem to start to get a head. It's only happened with a few of the bumps though. I think sanding down our bumps is helpful but something needs to draw out the clogged pore too. So, like you, I often wonder whether I'm purging and if it's a good thing or not when I use new products. |
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Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:33 pm |
I know i wonder if a cleanse could really trigger something else off. I hear so much about that lemon, cayenne pepper and honey cleanse? But im too scared to try that. Id want complete guidance from a specialist, maybe we need to visit a nutritional expert im not sure.
Btw at the moment im getting the bumps on my breasts and upper chest! Bit worried ive never had them there before and some of them have turned red and kind of into a spot :/ not sure why i used vitamin e on them becuase of stretchmarks but ive done that for a long time and suddenly the bumps! Maybe something internal is wrong with me right now. They are pretty much all up my arm slightly too although alot smaller but its literally like every single pore has a blockage!
I think the best thing we should do for now is regular gentle exfoliation. Have you got any product for that? I patted some water on my skin and then cerave pm lotion and a little bit of cetaphil cream patted over the top to hopefully seal it in. I dont know if these products are doing me any good but they dont itch or irritate my skin as such so il keep on with them.
Oh i found this on acne.org http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/230714-good-things-for-the-many-factors-that-lead-to-acne/#entry2580171 lots of information about skin cells and blocking the pores. I not sure if this is really what is happening to us but it could be a contributing factor. At some point im going to compile everything and work out what to try. Might even go to dermatologist with my findings and ask them about it.
Tomorrow i will take pictures of my bumps, never thought to do so when they are at there worst but it could be helpful to see if theres been any changes. |
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Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:56 pm |
i just created a photobucket to uload some pics i decided to do it now because my laptop light in the dark is really making the bumps show up
http://s1148.photobucket.com/user/cheeky_monkey_240/library/?sort=3&page=1
hope that works for you to see you have to click next though i took 3 pics, one is on my breast the other two are down my arm. They look really bad. |
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Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:30 pm |
| khaleesi wrote: |
i just created a photobucket to uload some pics i decided to do it now because my laptop light in the dark is really making the bumps show up
http://s1148.photobucket.com/user/cheeky_monkey_240/library/?sort=3&page=1
hope that works for you to see you have to click next though i took 3 pics, one is on my breast the other two are down my arm. They look really bad. |
It's definitely keratosis pilaris, A dermatologist will tell you it can't be cured. I think it might be sometbing you are putting on your skin that is making it spread. I would actually stop using anytbing I've been using on my body skin. Maybe good to look through the ingredients of the products you have been using to see any common ingredients in all of them. I think your moisturizers are clogging you up. I can't use moisturizer on my KP, it clogs my skin up more that I actually get more bumps.
Do the bumps on your face look like these though too? |
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Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:34 pm |
| khaleesi wrote: |
I know i wonder if a cleanse could really trigger something else off. I hear so much about that lemon, cayenne pepper and honey cleanse? But im too scared to try that. Id want complete guidance from a specialist, maybe we need to visit a nutritional expert im not sure.
Btw at the moment im getting the bumps on my breasts and upper chest! Bit worried ive never had them there before and some of them have turned red and kind of into a spot :/ not sure why i used vitamin e on them becuase of stretchmarks but ive done that for a long time and suddenly the bumps! Maybe something internal is wrong with me right now. They are pretty much all up my arm slightly too although alot smaller but its literally like every single pore has a blockage!
I think the best thing we should do for now is regular gentle exfoliation. Have you got any product for that? I patted some water on my skin and then cerave pm lotion and a little bit of cetaphil cream patted over the top to hopefully seal it in. I dont know if these products are doing me any good but they dont itch or irritate my skin as such so il keep on with them.
Oh i found this on acne.org http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/230714-good-things-for-the-many-factors-that-lead-to-acne/#entry2580171 lots of information about skin cells and blocking the pores. I not sure if this is really what is happening to us but it could be a contributing factor. At some point im going to compile everything and work out what to try. Might even go to dermatologist with my findings and ask them about it.
Tomorrow i will take pictures of my bumps, never thought to do so when they are at there worst but it could be helpful to see if theres been any changes. |
It's tough cause we are scared to try anything.
I don't think I will try any cleanse unless it's for candida and comes with very specific directions and like you said, maybe if it's under a nutritionist's guidance.
Was wondering if you could answer my question as to whether you get yeast infections often or if there is a chance you could have candida? |
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Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:24 am |
ok i uploaded pictures of my face this time its pretty horrific looking on camera yikes! as u can see my lines have actually gotten worse under my eyes too recently more little ones as if my skin is really dehydrated? ive been crying about my skin a bit today, im that upset about how its looking right now.
http://s1148.photobucket.com/user/cheeky_monkey_240/library/
as for yeast infection i think i had it once when i was in my early teens and never had it again. Alot of people on a group i go on were saying to try cut out dairy and gluten it may help. So think that might be one of the things i first start out trying, maybe dairy might be easier for now. See how my skin reacts towards that. |
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Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:09 pm |
| khaleesi wrote: |
ok i uploaded pictures of my face this time its pretty horrific looking on camera yikes! as u can see my lines have actually gotten worse under my eyes too recently more little ones as if my skin is really dehydrated? ive been crying about my skin a bit today, im that upset about how its looking right now.
http://s1148.photobucket.com/user/cheeky_monkey_240/library/
as for yeast infection i think i had it once when i was in my early teens and never had it again. Alot of people on a group i go on were saying to try cut out dairy and gluten it may help. So think that might be one of the things i first start out trying, maybe dairy might be easier for now. See how my skin reacts towards that. |
I tried that but didn't work, Let me know how cutting dairy and gluten goes for you.
Sigh, my skin look the same as yours. You have redness all the time on your chin? When did you first notice these bumps on your face? Did you have smooth clear skin at some point in your life? The wrinkles under the eyes look fine, normal amount of wrinkles anyone around our age would have. If you want to do something about them you can look into an eye cream. I don't really know what to recommend though so you may have to search or ask on these boards.
I understand though crying about it. I cry about it often too. Sometimes I try to get ready to go out and then I end up staying home and crying. If I go somewhere, I never go in the day, I only will see people at night. I guess it may be KP that we have which means nothing to know that because they say there is no way to get rid of it. |
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Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:32 pm |
im going to start next week with it. Yes it does look very similar, i thought i would never find someone with similar because every other example of bumps on the face ive found is either really huge hard looking ones or looks more like acne.
The redness is from recent since my skins been really irritable probably from over exfoliating? Although i dont know why, because using ultrasonic to exfoliate before hadnt caused me any problems at all.
They arent too bad i guess the lines but they have gotten worse within a month and i practically had no fine lines under my eyes until i started to wash my face more reguarly (year or so ago) so im not sure if my skin doesnt like my cleanser? Im using some eucerin eye cream right now, nothing ever feels hydrating enough but iguess its better than nothing, might even try use vaseline under my eye to stop my eyes getting dehydrated? May test it under one eye. Feel at a bit of a round about with my skin though. What are you going to give ago?
Aw im sorry you cant go out in the day if it makes you feel any better i suffer with social anxiety and going out i also do have issues with how i look too but this is just aggravating the problem and i have to be bridesmaid on saturday im not looking forward to it at all! I haven't managed to practice doing my makeup either because my skins been too irritable.
And no i believe ive always had slight bumps on my skin even on my face but they just seem to be worse now like extremely clogged. |
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Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:02 pm |
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im going to start next week with it. Yes it does look very similar, i thought i would never find someone with similar because every other example of bumps on the face ive found is either really huge hard looking ones or looks more like acne.
The redness is from recent since my skins been really irritable probably from over exfoliating? Although i dont know why, because using ultrasonic to exfoliate before hadnt caused me any problems at all.
They arent too bad i guess the lines but they have gotten worse within a month and i practically had no fine lines under my eyes until i started to wash my face more reguarly (year or so ago) so im not sure if my skin doesnt like my cleanser? Im using some eucerin eye cream right now, nothing ever feels hydrating enough but iguess its better than nothing, might even try use vaseline under my eye to stop my eyes getting dehydrated? May test it under one eye. Feel at a bit of a round about with my skin though. What are you going to give ago?
Aw im sorry you cant go out in the day if it makes you feel any better i suffer with social anxiety and going out i also do have issues with how i look too but this is just aggravating the problem and i have to be bridesmaid on saturday im not looking forward to it at all! I haven't managed to practice doing my makeup either because my skins been too irritable.
And no i believe ive always had slight bumps on my skin even on my face but they just seem to be worse now like extremely clogged. |
I have social anxiety as well, but I'm a little better about it the past year I've come out of my shell more. If you need help and makeup tips, you can talk to me I'm pretty great with makeup. Since we have the bumps you want to use matte products to hide it better and then place a powder that will smooth the skin in between the tiny bumps we have. Also a primer underneath to smooth the skin. I can recommend products and send you a private message if you need help so let me know. We have the same skin color basically so I can even recommend colors.
What cleanser were you using the last year that you think attributed to the eye wrinkles? It's very possible the eye wrinkles are from a cleanser. I have used about five different cleansers I've tested in the past few months and discontinued each after about one to two weeks because I could tell they were harming my skin ever so slightly by dehydrating, drying it out. It took over a month or two months for the slight changes (fine line wrinkles) one of the cleansers made to my skin to go away and repair itself.
Maybe look for a cleanser with chamomile as the main ingredient or one of the top ingredients to help with the inflammation from your clarisonic on your chin. And I think you probably should stop the clarisonic for a while, your skin seems very raw there.
I have no idea anymore what I should try. I feel like everything is just useless. I don't think I will bother with the fungal cream because it seems tough for cream to even effect my skin because the bumps are covering it like a hard armour. |
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Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:14 pm |
thankyou! and i think social anxiety is more common than people think. Im sorry you have it too but glad you are having a better year. Ive been quite bad for a long time now.
Do you know any good matte foundations for dry skin? All the ones recommended for dry skin are always dewy and i HATE them! Shows up all the bumps like you say and also highlights places on my face that i hate! I always try primers under foundations but i swear it makes the foundation cakey and crumblier as if its lifting the primer up as you blend the foundation in. It's the same under my eyes, i like to use primer to smooth over lines but when i come to put concealer on it crumbles it all up I still have alot of samples and experimenting to do though. I wish my skin hadnt got acne and scars else i would go with just the lightest foundation ever! What makeup products do you use and like?
The cleanser i have been using all this time is cerave hydrating cleanser although i did use before that cetaphil which made my skin feel tight and dry so i started adding a bit of olive oil into it. In the end after a month or two i gave in and baught the cerave one. It must be either im losing moisture out my skin, or could be because the cleanser doesnt have alot of extremely hydrating ingredients? Or maybe my skin doesnt like our areas hard water. I would like to get a water filter installed but i live with my mum still and its going to be extra money to buy a new cartridge or whatever because it will be being used by all 3 of us. I may just get a cheap water filter jug and use it specifically for warm water and then re-poor it into my sink to wash? Sounds a bit extreme but im willing to give anything a go lol
What are the ones you tried and didnt like?
Btw i am scared of products with natural ingredients seeing as i seem to react a little to certain foods when eaten (raw fruits and veg and when i was younger some nuts). Never seem to go down well on my skin, cucumber, aloe vera for example they just irritate me. Will definately stay away from the ultrasonic exfoliator (its not a clarasonic btw) its a device called tua spa, comes with micro current and ultrasound aswell. Mainly got it so i could exfoliate without putting something like an acid on my skin but obviously my skin doesnt like it and maybe one day i can use it for the microcurrent i think i probably dont need it right now although i did test it out a few times to see if it did much for my skin lol It didnt so will wait until im a bit older for that maybe.
Wish i could help with your bumps. Think best bet might be going and seeing a dermatologist? You have tried eliminating things out of the diet. Did you read that link i sent you that had alot of information on acne.org i wonder if you could try anything off there.
The bumps on my breast and arms have gone down alot, still there but probably gone down by 75% on chest and 50% on arms:) im sure something was triggering it, but cant work out the same with my face its like once the bumps are there they never go! |
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Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:22 pm |
| khaleesi wrote: |
thankyou! and i think social anxiety is more common than people think. Im sorry you have it too but glad you are having a better year. Ive been quite bad for a long time now.
Do you know any good matte foundations for dry skin? All the ones recommended for dry skin are always dewy and i HATE them! Shows up all the bumps like you say and also highlights places on my face that i hate! I always try primers under foundations but i swear it makes the foundation cakey and crumblier as if its lifting the primer up as you blend the foundation in. It's the same under my eyes, i like to use primer to smooth over lines but when i come to put concealer on it crumbles it all up I still have alot of samples and experimenting to do though. I wish my skin hadnt got acne and scars else i would go with just the lightest foundation ever! What makeup products do you use and like?
The cleanser i have been using all this time is cerave hydrating cleanser although i did use before that cetaphil which made my skin feel tight and dry so i started adding a bit of olive oil into it. In the end after a month or two i gave in and baught the cerave one. It must be either im losing moisture out my skin, or could be because the cleanser doesnt have alot of extremely hydrating ingredients? Or maybe my skin doesnt like our areas hard water. I would like to get a water filter installed but i live with my mum still and its going to be extra money to buy a new cartridge or whatever because it will be being used by all 3 of us. I may just get a cheap water filter jug and use it specifically for warm water and then re-poor it into my sink to wash? Sounds a bit extreme but im willing to give anything a go lol
What are the ones you tried and didnt like?
Btw i am scared of products with natural ingredients seeing as i seem to react a little to certain foods when eaten (raw fruits and veg and when i was younger some nuts). Never seem to go down well on my skin, cucumber, aloe vera for example they just irritate me. Will definately stay away from the ultrasonic exfoliator (its not a clarasonic btw) its a device called tua spa, comes with micro current and ultrasound aswell. Mainly got it so i could exfoliate without putting something like an acid on my skin but obviously my skin doesnt like it and maybe one day i can use it for the microcurrent i think i probably dont need it right now although i did test it out a few times to see if it did much for my skin lol It didnt so will wait until im a bit older for that maybe.
Wish i could help with your bumps. Think best bet might be going and seeing a dermatologist? You have tried eliminating things out of the diet. Did you read that link i sent you that had alot of information on acne.org i wonder if you could try anything off there.
The bumps on my breast and arms have gone down alot, still there but probably gone down by 75% on chest and 50% on arms:) im sure something was triggering it, but cant work out the same with my face its like once the bumps are there they never go! |
I am using the cerave hydrating cleanser right now as well. Too early to tell... but one thing I can tell you is it has hyaluronic acid so I'm using it with caution since if the air is dry hyaluronic acid will pull water from the skin causing dehydration. So, after I wash with it, I sleep with a humidifier in my room to cover the bases.
Oh gosh, I can't even remember all the cleansers lol. Cetaphil -hated. Philosophy Purity cleanser-gave me the fine lines and dehydrated my skin in just a week. Mario badescu acne cleanser- caused dehyrdation also, Nivea milk cleanser-irritated skin, Vichy Micellar water- irritates skin (this one isn't so terrible, I still am using it up since I have it left), Burt's bees makeup remover wipes for sensitive skn-awful, irritated skin.
Well that's great about the bumps! What have you been doing differently that you think attributed to the change?
Unfortunately, I've been to about 6 dermatologists and 2 doctors with my skin troubles. Been tested for lots of thing by the doctors and the dermatologists told me they couldn't really help me basically. They told me to try using cerave or cetaphil which they tell anyone to use. Time wasted to tell me to use drugstore products. Otherwise, they said I could try laser of course anything to make money. Dermatologists are just as clueless as we are, you can find the same information they will tell you in person on the internet. Then again it sounds like you live in the UK? I live in America...we have the worst doctors here that are brainwashed/educated to same the same things. You might be able to get more help in the UK as I've noticed from visiting Europe before that the doctors are more knowledgeable/educated and more interested in helping patients, not always all about pushing pharmaceuticals.
Maybe the hard water could be an issue. I used to wash my face and only let bottled water touch it!! Lol, I had a huge jug of distilled water from the store and would only wash my face with that water. It actually helped a lot I think with my skin's sensitivity and helping it repair itself a bit.
I'm going to PM you now the make-up products. |
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Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:00 pm |
i might try getting a humidifier, how long have you used one and do you feel a difference? that is one thing thats concerning me with the cerave pm too i just dont know if its drying me more or less (my skin looks dehydrated but could it be another reason?) what to do for the best i may just forget it and maybe il try get a moisturiser that just has as little ingredients as possible and excluding hyaluronic acid and glycerin if possible. I know they are meant to hold the moisture in the skin but surely if u have damp skin and put a basic moisturiser on that seals the skin it will hold it on the skin anyways?
Wow you used alot. Do you find the micellar waters drying? Ive tried bioderma and garnier and as much as i quite like how well they work i felt like i needed moisture.
I dont know if they are any better here. Never seen one as of yet i will be interested to see how it goes. Cerave arent really known here so im wondering what products they would end up advising on.
Same here well i would wash my face normally with tap water but then id wipe my face over with distilled water but gave that up after a while as tried to stop dragging stuff over my skin too much incase of irritating it.
I used some of the neostrata cream today (over unwashed face) incase there was too much irritation, it felt ok though but once again it felt like it tightened my skin. It did a very mild exfoliation barely can tell a difference but i can tell my skin really needs it and my mums wedding is 2 days away now so i need to do something else my makeup will look lovely and flakey :/
Think we both need to just keep trying products out. Gentle ones, gentle exfoliation, maybe stuff with minimal ingredients so we can maybe work out the culprit if it clogs us?
Im also going to try go gluten or dairy free for aslong as i can to see if that helps. Also yesterday i forced myself to get decaf tea instead of regular (im a bit of a tea addict) hopefully will help with the hydration of my skin. Not sure what else we can do. And thankyou il check my pm i havent seen any notification yet though. Bless you x |
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Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:11 am |
| khaleesi wrote: |
i might try getting a humidifier, how long have you used one and do you feel a difference? that is one thing thats concerning me with the cerave pm too i just dont know if its drying me more or less (my skin looks dehydrated but could it be another reason?) what to do for the best i may just forget it and maybe il try get a moisturiser that just has as little ingredients as possible and excluding hyaluronic acid and glycerin if possible. I know they are meant to hold the moisture in the skin but surely if u have damp skin and put a basic moisturiser on that seals the skin it will hold it on the skin anyways?
Wow you used alot. Do you find the micellar waters drying? Ive tried bioderma and garnier and as much as i quite like how well they work i felt like i needed moisture.
I dont know if they are any better here. Never seen one as of yet i will be interested to see how it goes. Cerave arent really known here so im wondering what products they would end up advising on.
Same here well i would wash my face normally with tap water but then id wipe my face over with distilled water but gave that up after a while as tried to stop dragging stuff over my skin too much incase of irritating it.
I used some of the neostrata cream today (over unwashed face) incase there was too much irritation, it felt ok though but once again it felt like it tightened my skin. It did a very mild exfoliation barely can tell a difference but i can tell my skin really needs it and my mums wedding is 2 days away now so i need to do something else my makeup will look lovely and flakey :/
Think we both need to just keep trying products out. Gentle ones, gentle exfoliation, maybe stuff with minimal ingredients so we can maybe work out the culprit if it clogs us?
Im also going to try go gluten or dairy free for aslong as i can to see if that helps. Also yesterday i forced myself to get decaf tea instead of regular (im a bit of a tea addict) hopefully will help with the hydration of my skin. Not sure what else we can do. And thankyou il check my pm i havent seen any notification yet though. Bless you x |
I would like to know if you ever used bareminerals products before??
About the humidifier, I love it. I had it for a year but used sparingly because I'm annoyed when I have to use it, I take out all my electronics and any skin creams from my bedroom and put them somewhere further out in the house so the humidifier doesn't destroy them. That gets annoying, but I've been using the humidifier a lot more often and I think it makes my skin plumper and makes any moisturizer I put on my skin work at least 3x better.
I'm not sure if it's the cerave. It all depends on the climate you live in, if it's dry then yea it could be the cerave. Otherwise, the next thing I would say is that it was a retinol or AHA product you had used for a while.
It might be hard to find a moisturizer without glycerin but if you can find one then surely give it a go.
Oh I hate when I try exfoliating products and then it ends up tighetning and drying my skin so quickly and easliy. It's so frustrating. That's exciting about your mom's wedding!1 I hope the makeup tips/products I PMed you will help you, please let me know how they work out for you if you end up trying anything.
Yes, we definitely have to keep looking for the culprit. Based off the ingredients you sent me from your products and looking at my own, I haven't really narrowed it down. I'm beginning to thik that glycerin isn't the issue though. If we can only tolerate gentle exfoliation, we might as well just use the yogurt masks. It's cheap and most beneficial and gradually effective for the skin.
That's great about the tea. Definitely drink more water too. And I tried the dairy and gluten free way and boy was that awful, but I hope it will be easier for you and let me know of any progress.
Also, I had asked what you were dong lately that attributed to your KP on your body getting 75% better as you had mentioned.
Please let me know about the bareminerals and if you ever used anything from them like their makeup etc. |
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:53 pm |
Have either of you tried LED? I had some chicken skin at the base of my neck. Don't know if it is the KP that you have since I'm much older than either of you, but it had a pebbly feel. After about 3 months of LED, 3-4x a week, the chicken skin is now back to normal skin. LED doesn't help with all skin problems. The skin tags I had in that area are still there so if you have a different condition it may not work. Just thought I would throw it out there as a possibility.
Oh and p.s. bareminerals makeup gives me clogged pores because of the bismuth oxychloride. I really like bareminerals skincare though. Most people give the skincare line great reviews, but a few people seem to have an allergic reaction to the active ingredient, so get samples if you can. |
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:41 pm |
| howInteresting wrote: |
Have either of you tried LED? I had some chicken skin at the base of my neck. Don't know if it is the KP that you have since I'm much older than either of you, but it had a pebbly feel. After about 3 months of LED, 3-4x a week, the chicken skin is now back to normal skin. LED doesn't help with all skin problems. The skin tags I had in that area are still there so if you have a different condition it may not work. Just thought I would throw it out there as a possibility.
Oh and p.s. bareminerals makeup gives me clogged pores because of the bismuth oxychloride. I really like bareminerals skincare though. Most people give the skincare line great reviews, but a few people seem to have an allergic reaction to the active ingredient, so get samples if you can. |
Hello, thank you for responding to our thread. What is LED? Is this a device you used at home? If so, could you please link to the exact product you used? Thank you for your help. I have that pebbly feel on my neck too..at the base of my neck too but also all over. |
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