Tanaka Facial Massage (bone, muscle & lymph drainage)
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free skin care · Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:55 pm

Hi Critic, by bone scrapper, do you mean one of the jade implements? I love the massage and having studied shiatsu massage years ago, know that sometimes pain is necessary. I also add acupressure. It's amazing how much tension we hold in the face.

free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:06 pm

Thanks for sharing pics Critic you look amazing and I am so glad that you shared this massage with all of us..... even if I will look half as good you do now I will be happy Razz

free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:24 pm

lisocas wrote:

Sorry to post again critic but I forgot to ask u how many times per week/day do you do the massage? Did u build it up slowly only doing it certain days and then every day once your skin got used to it?

thanks xx

I do twice a day almost once I start the program.

free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:31 pm

Angelfire wrote:

Hi Critic, by bone scrapper, do you mean one of the jade implements? I love the massage and having studied shiatsu massage years ago, know that sometimes pain is necessary. I also add acupressure. It's amazing how much tension we hold in the face.

Hi! I have different tools, jade scrapper and buffalo bone scrappers in different size and shape. I am currently reading a book on how to use the scrappers (4-5 sizes in big and small) to release the tension from your body and face. It is very amazing, quite difficult to follow. It stated that 'ugly' face is due to tension & toxic and have many techniques to release the tension and turns 'ugly' to 'beauty', and guarantee will look 5 years younger in one treatment. I briefly did once for my face, focus more on my eyes and feel soooooo comfortable. I usually can see some flying black tiny dots, seems they gone after the scrapping.

Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:33 pm

Critic, could I please see your photos?

free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:38 pm

critic wrote:

Angelfire wrote:

Hi Critic, by bone scrapper, do you mean one of the jade implements? I love the massage and having studied shiatsu massage years ago, know that sometimes pain is necessary. I also add acupressure. It's amazing how much tension we hold in the face.

Hi! I have different tools, jade scrapper and buffalo bone scrappers in different size and shape. I am currently reading a book on how to use the scrappers (4-5 sizes in big and small) to release the tension from your body and face. It is very amazing, quite difficult to follow. It stated that 'ugly' face is due to tension & toxic and have many techniques to release the tension and turns 'ugly' to 'beauty', and guarantee will look 5 years younger in one treatment. I briefly did once for my face, focus more on my eyes and feel soooooo comfortable. I usually can see some flying black tiny dots, seems they gone after the scrapping.

I am sure this is very true....would love more information on these tools. Can you share pictures of the tools?

free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:50 pm

Toby wrote:

critic wrote:

Angelfire wrote:

Hi Critic, by bone scrapper, do you mean one of the jade implements? I love the massage and having studied shiatsu massage years ago, know that sometimes pain is necessary. I also add acupressure. It's amazing how much tension we hold in the face.

Hi! I have different tools, jade scrapper and buffalo bone scrappers in different size and shape. I am currently reading a book on how to use the scrappers (4-5 sizes in big and small) to release the tension from your body and face. It is very amazing, quite difficult to follow. It stated that 'ugly' face is due to tension & toxic and have many techniques to release the tension and turns 'ugly' to 'beauty', and guarantee will look 5 years younger in one treatment. I briefly did once for my face, focus more on my eyes and feel soooooo comfortable. I usually can see some flying black tiny dots, seems they gone after the scrapping.

I am sure this is very true....would love more information on these tools. Can you share pictures of the tools?

Hi Toby, I will post the pics later, BTW, one of the technique is to slim the thighs, which I think you will be very interested!

free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:03 pm

LondonLucyGeorge wrote:

Critic what exactly does your routine consist of, or did it consist of? I'm wondering how we can make similar gains. How long did you do Tanaka for, and how long did you spend each time doing it? When did you move to the Korean stuff? Did I also read you did something else in between? Just trying to work out a plan so we can all get the same results.

I am doing lots and lots, I have mentioned in this forum many times, please spend your time to read, I am not going to repeat here. Again, there is never one size fits all program. In my case, I don't do facial exercises, no green smoothies, no green tea, no derma roller etc... but the above have benefited many people here.

free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:22 pm

Must chime in here to say critic's success with Tanaka is amazing. She looks like a fresh, adorable, pretty 20 year old !....

And now I am all ears for the thigh slimming tips!

free skin care · Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:06 pm

I love Tanaka, but unfortunately, over the last few weeks I experienced horrible breakouts Confused

all over my jaw bone and my neck (exactly the part where you push the toxins toward your collar bone). I have never experienced anything like this (even though I am acne prone! Shock

!), so I had to stop with Tanaka for a while.
I will go back to the massage, but will switch to aloe gel to see if that works better for me.

What do guys use??? creams, oils, gels . . .

free skin care · Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:57 am

rubby wrote:

I love Tanaka, but unfortunately, over the last few weeks I experienced horrible breakouts Confused

all over my jaw bone and my neck (exactly the part where you push the toxins toward your collar bone). I have never experienced anything like this (even though I am acne prone! Shock

!), so I had to stop with Tanaka for a while.
I will go back to the massage, but will switch to aloe gel to see if that works better for me.

What do guys use??? creams, oils, gels . . .

If you take a read through this thread you will see this was a major issue for some of us.
What are you using with your massage? I was using an oil which had not caused any problem to my skin pre-Tanaka. I stopped the massage for a few months then began again but with creams (vaseline, nivea, clinique) and I haven't had any breakouts.
Give your skin a rest, wait for all the breakouts to clear up then try again with a different product (which is definitely not oil-based!).

free skin care · Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:05 am

Bone/Jade scraping. Does one need to be brave to do this? I think so!

Gua Sha

A traditional Chinese therapy that is still not well known in the west is gua sha. In Chinese, gua means to scrape or scratch. Sha refers to a reddish patch of skin. Gua sha frees the flow of blocked chi in the body, and is often done over acupuncture points and along meridians. A gua sha treatment was traditionally done by scraping a jade scraper across the skin until the capillaries burst, thus releasing toxins that affect the flow of chi in the body. Although a few practitioners still use jade, most modern practitioners use a scraper made from cow horn or bamboo. The skin being scraped is lubricated with a medicinal oil. In places where there are no problems, the skin remains unchanged. In areas with minor problems, the skin turns red. In areas with high levels of toxins or major chi blockages, the skin appears purplish and bruised.

Anxious

free skin care · Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:38 am

Hi!
I have been doing the tanaka massage for about six weeks now. The first three weeks I did it once a day and the last three weeks I have been doing it morning-evening.
For lack of time I have incorporated it in the final stage of my skin care routine, using a home-made HA serum mixed with camelia oil in the morning and emu or rice bran oil in the evening. No breakouts whatsoever.
In the last few days people who see me almost every day made the following comments:
-"Your face looks smaller. Have you lost weight?" - I haven't, but my face which used to be round is now oval but not gaunt, for those concerned.
-"Your features look softer, sweeter, somehow" I liked this one! It's nice to hear you look soft and sweet despite the daily stress.

Anyway, although I have been doing facial exercises for a year and a half now, I think that what these people saw were the results of Tanaka massage.

Critic, I cannot thank you enough for letting us in on these beauty secrets. I would also like to thank all of you ladies you have so generously shared your knowledge in this forum.

free skin care · Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:42 am

I've read all your postings in this thread, but you have many messages in many different threads and just wondered if there was a central location where all the information was present rather than me having to search through everything.

I know your against facial exercises, and read with interest what you said to others, but even in this thread your not specific with timings of how long you have done Tanaka, and you mention things without timings also like bone exercises etc. So I just thought it would be helpful if you described it all in one place. Sorry I asked now as didn't need attitude to what I thought was a perfectly harmless question.

Lucy

critic wrote:

LondonLucyGeorge wrote:

Critic what exactly does your routine consist of, or did it consist of? I'm wondering how we can make similar gains. How long did you do Tanaka for, and how long did you spend each time doing it? When did you move to the Korean stuff? Did I also read you did something else in between? Just trying to work out a plan so we can all get the same results.

I am doing lots and lots, I have mentioned in this forum many times, please spend your time to read, I am not going to repeat here. Again, there is never one size fits all program. In my case, I don't do facial exercises, no green smoothies, no green tea, no derma roller etc... but the above have benefited many people here.

free skin care · Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:26 am

LondonLucyGeorge wrote:

Sorry I asked now as didn't need attitude to what I thought was a perfectly harmless question.

Lucy

There is one other thread that Critic instigated that also covered Tanaka massage:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=35925&highlight=anyone+heard+bone

Please bear in mind that English is not Critic's first language. As someone who also speaks other languages, I understand how hard it can be to always come across in the right way; things often sound too direct.
What Critic is trying to say is that even if you did exactly the same as she does (which she has posted but possibly on the other thread), it is unlikely "we can all get the same results". To think that is quite naive.
Perhaps Critic can add a signature listing all the things she does at the moment?

free skin care · Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:28 am

Critic,

Thx for sending me your pics.

Wow, I can easily tell that Tanaka has made you look great!

You do look pretty and don't look like in your mid 40's definitely.

free skin care · Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:53 am

Thanks Miranda, that makes more sense now. I didn't realise English wasn't Critic's first language at all (and maybe thats something that people could also add to their autosignature as it would save such events happening again). I've no problem with non-English speakers participating in the forum, and hey we obviously have all benefited from Tanaka so its great.

Just to be clear - I completely understood the point she was making, but still would like to know in totality what she does. I've read that thread, and there are about 3 others I've found and in each thread she mentions segments of what she does but there is no central listing and I'm sure there are probably a lot more threads she has begun, and it would take me a lot of time to go through them but just wondered if there was a complete listing of everything she does.

Lucy

This is Miranda wrote:

LondonLucyGeorge wrote:

Sorry I asked now as didn't need attitude to what I thought was a perfectly harmless question.

Lucy

There is one other thread that Critic instigated that also covered Tanaka massage:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=35925&highlight=anyone+heard+bone

Please bear in mind that English is not Critic's first language. As someone who also speaks other languages, I understand how hard it can be to always come across in the right way; things often sound too direct.
What Critic is trying to say is that even if you did exactly the same as she does (which she has posted but possibly on the other thread), it is unlikely "we can all get the same results". To think that is quite naive.
Perhaps Critic can add a signature listing all the things she does at the moment?

free skin care · Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:55 pm

I want to share everything but it is impossible, my diet is not suitable for Caucasian, or I should say not for everyone, even my best friends cannot stand what I eat.

I visit my TCM dr. every 2 weeks, drink Chinese herbal tea twice a day.

I eat a special porridge for breakfast, the machine (like a blender, but it soaks, blends, cook all ingredients) and I don't think you can get the ingredients or machine in your country.

The 10+ ingredients are changing according to my health condition, seasons etc.. I like the taste but when I share some with my 6 colleagues, none of them like it.

free skin care · Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:58 pm

Yea I get what you mean. Im Asian too but the way you maintain a healthy lifestyle is difficult for me to maintain. We have TCM doctors here in my country too but I dont visit them.

free skin care · Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:53 pm

Sorry Gang - I am not following the conversation on food, ec. HELP..

free skin care · Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:29 pm

HippoMe wrote:

Bone/Jade scraping. Does one need to be brave to do this? I think so!

Gua Sha

A traditional Chinese therapy that is still not well known in the west is gua sha. In Chinese, gua means to scrape or scratch. Sha refers to a reddish patch of skin. Gua sha frees the flow of blocked chi in the body, and is often done over acupuncture points and along meridians. A gua sha treatment was traditionally done by scraping a jade scraper across the skin until the capillaries burst, thus releasing toxins that affect the flow of chi in the body. Although a few practitioners still use jade, most modern practitioners use a scraper made from cow horn or bamboo. The skin being scraped is lubricated with a medicinal oil. In places where there are no problems, the skin remains unchanged. In areas with minor problems, the skin turns red. In areas with high levels of toxins or major chi blockages, the skin appears purplish and bruised.

Anxious

No, that is not true. It is not scary and anyone can do it, this is a very good book about Gua Sha for anti-aging and beautiful skin:

http://read.dangdang.com/content_2083317?ref=read-3-C&book_id=9908

Here are some of the steps:
http://read.dangdang.com/content_2083323?ref=read-3-C&book_id=9908
http://read.dangdang.com/content_2083325?ref=read-3-C&book_id=9908

How to scrap if your skin is too dry:
http://read.dangdang.com/content_2083327?ref=read-3-C&book_id=9908

How to scrap if skin is too dull:
http://read.dangdang.com/content_2083329?ref=read-3-C&book_id=9908
http://read.dangdang.com/content_2083330?ref=read-3-C&book_id=9908

Wrinkles, eye bags, dark circles:
http://read.dangdang.com/content_2083331?ref=read-3-C&book_id=9908

free skin care · Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:32 am

Thanks for the links Critic, lots of reading to do this weekend!

Very Happy

free skin care · Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:39 am

Just to chime in here as I think this is a really important point that I tried making previously and it got ignored but it really can have major problems for people.

When I first started Tanaka I did have fantastic results and it was wonderful and Critic sent me pictures at the time too of her and she did look fantastic, but then she mentioned for her last photos she had been doing Tanaka plus some Korean Bone Exercises on her face. Knowing that the previous stuff worked great, I wanted to try out these bone, and she kindly sent me instructions, which I followed and had disasterours results.

At no point did Critic ever explain to me that English wasn't her native language and as her messages are usually quite good English, I had no reason to doubt it, especially on the PMs as they sounded like perfect English. Now I'm not completely blaming Critic for this entirely, as I'm the one who followed the instructions but I just feel had I known the instructions she sent me were being described in a language that she wasn't fluent in, I would have been more cautious. Not only that but I later found out that she wasn't actually able to read the instructions, they were simply her ideas based on looking at the pictures.

It took months to get my face back to normal, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but I do think that if American English isn't your first language, then there is the chances of such mishaps happening. I'm not against Critic at all - I know I had great results from Tanaka and loved reading her messages about her success too, and her pictures do show changes but I can see where Lucy's coming from in that she should mention that she is perhaps unable to speak fluent English perhaps or is using a translator tool like they do on other forums.

Theresa

LondonLucyGeorge wrote:

Thanks Miranda, that makes more sense now. I didn't realise English wasn't Critic's first language at all (and maybe thats something that people could also add to their autosignature as it would save such events happening again). I've no problem with non-English speakers participating in the forum, and hey we obviously have all benefited from Tanaka so its great.

*moderated

free skin care · Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:44 am

rubby wrote:

I love Tanaka, but unfortunately, over the last few weeks I experienced horrible breakouts Confused

all over my jaw bone and my neck (exactly the part where you push the toxins toward your collar bone). I have never experienced anything like this (even though I am acne prone! Shock

!), so I had to stop with Tanaka for a while.
I will go back to the massage, but will switch to aloe gel to see if that works better for me.

What do guys use??? creams, oils, gels . . .

Rubby, I usually use OBAGI cleanser (like a gel) in the morning and La Colline massage cream in the evening.

free skin care · Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:41 pm

Sorry to bother, Critic, the links seem to have lots of information but I can't get the google translation to translate the basic information, as it is in Chinese I think... I actually get the non important information translated but not the basic... Crying or Very sad

I also live in a non English speaking country, though I read, understand and speak it,... but it is quite frustrating when one is not taken seriously just because of the language!

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