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Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:17 am  |
| I notice that my BQ feels warm on my skin towards the end of a treatment too, it's not unpleasant though. How do you know if you're pressing too hard? |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:57 am |
Mine gets very warm too especially after half an hour and on the green setting. The metal housing seems to absorb the heat as well and sometimes it will get too hot for me to place it directly onto skin and I have to leave a wee space between the BQ and my skin. However it only gets like that if I'm using it for too long like < 45mins. Wonder if the SP will get even warmer?  |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:04 am |
I haven't posted before but have appreciated those that do and give great information. I have a couple of things James told me through e-mail that might be of interest on the SP. Let me add that I have really enjoyed my Baby Q and James is super responsive.
As far as spider veins, he indicated it will fade them but they will not disappear completely.
I also asked about cellulite and hair restoration. Someone was asking earlier if the SP would remove hair but the opposite is true. Here is input directly from James.
"Firstly, you are correct about cellulite, and there aren't any true definitive results I have seen. As far as I consider, the jury is still out.
For hair "health", ABSOLUTELY. A contributing factor for hair loss is lack of blood flow to the follicle. Red/Infrared light increases blood flow, according to research. There are devices out there that are "designed" for hair "health", but uses the same technology.
With the use of red/infrared light, you can help prevent further hair loss and strengthen existing hair. There is some research out there that
suggests and shows clinical pictures of increased follicle count. |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:33 am |
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| question: Is there such a thing as overdoing the Quasar? If I did it twice a day, would it affect the results any as opposed to doing it as recommended in the manual? |
Angelina & et al:
If you are using this for anti-aging, acne and most other skin insults, PLEASE stick to the recommended use or those techniques that have been found effective on other forums, including here on EDS.
Or, call us about your intended use. You can always call me at our 800 number or on my cell phone if you have these questions!
For pain, you can use daily.
Using the Professional Quasar SP twice a day could hinder results.
Use the same sense about working out for light therapy. Most of the time they are very parallel.
If you work the same muscle group every day, you don't give the muscle time to "repair" itself and build or tone. A break is needed (typically one day) and you should work alternative muscles in between. Secondly, you see a post that comes up that says "if I stop using this, will the results go away". Yes, over time they will. Just like if you stop working out or eating right you will slowly reverse back to your previous state.
P.S. AdvanThera.com is currently receiving updates, and the website and AdvanThera will be temporarily down for a few more hours. Please feel free to call us instead. If you sent an email and didn't receive a response, please resend later today.
Make It A Great Day Everyone!
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:04 am |
Hey, everyone! I wanted to clarify that AnnaR and I don't intend to use the SP twice a day on the face - holy mackeral, that'd be overkill! I will use it 1-2x a week but will break my sessions up so I don't overdo it. There's nothing to be gained so I'll save myself the time. I just like the obvious benefit that is visible so that's why I'm dividing the sessions.
Now, as to the spider vein thing, I hear you. It's an experiment I'm planning because my broken caps are fading. Ultimately, I imagine that I will bite the bullet and just go for sclerotherapy - get it done all at once.
Lastly, regarding cellulite, I, and a few others, are winning the battle with a combination of Santica's Cellulite supplement (take 2x/day) and using a personal infrared sauna (others have ordered; two members, myself included, are using). The infrared sauna is melting my cellulite away - not kidding. It's portable, easy to set up and another member found a vendor on eBay that sells them for $150 (I paid $350 but still love it). A link to the thread (the ebay link is about halfway down):
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=17718&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25
It is absolutely amazing for ridding the body of toxins. |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:25 am |
| scalawaggirl wrote: |
Scally, I saw your post about losing your wedding ring - so sorry to hear about that! That'd make my stomach sick if it happened to me!
I was a total freakshow when it happened, believe me. My darling husband went and ordered another ring for me the next day.  I had an old ring w/a large diamond that I tried to sell once but there was no interest so it's been sitting in my jewelry box for years.
Well, we talked about using it for my wedding ring set and he took it to the jeweler's with him. He couldn't keep a secret - he's terrible at that - just like a kid and it's so bad because I like surprises! It's his only fault. Anyway, he told me that it's going to be the marquise, which is 1 carat with two aquamarine hearts on either side (my birthstone, which he adores). At first, I kind of was in shock - hell, I didn't even know they make heart-shaped stones and I requested trilliants - but after I thought about it and because the way he described it (2 hearts for us), I really got to like the idea. It will be set on a 2mm band that matches my replacement wedding band.
I have LOADS of tension in my shoulders and neck - I have a jerk of a boss to deal with 5 days a week and have been having tension with other things going on. I can't even relax in my sleep these days - I wake up with a stiff neck and sore shoulders. Hmmmm, SP? Weeeellll, if its a multi-purpose machine ...!
Here's what I used to get rid of it (there's still a twinge but it's only 5% of before). I used the SP to address the pain and then also used a hand-held massager (you can get them anywhere - Walgreens, Walmart but get the very strong one). Using this combo, my tension was released and the pain was addressed. It worked like magic!
P.S. Scally, your house is actually ALREADY a spa! You even have the aquarium for people to watch for relaxation!
I can't disagree with you on that one. I have all the essentials! Oh, and my aquarium is coming along nicely. I have so much fun with it! |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:49 am |
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| Possibly you are pressing the Baby down on your skin and it is coming in direct contact with the actual LEDs? |
Hi. Although I can't say that I'm using any pressure at all with the BQ, my skin on my chin DOES come in contact with the LED's. That is because of the shape of my small chin. I would have to hold the device away from my skin altogether to prevent any skin contact. I didn't know I was supposed to prevent contact.
As for the comparison with the larger model, does it create more heat from the LED's than the BQ? I don't think you answered that question. From what I understand, heat is created by infrared light. Is this more intense with the large unit?
Last question for the moment, how is this device at fading brown pigmentation marks (liver spots)? My BQ hasn't faded any at this point.
Thankyou... |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:08 am |
| PocoLoco wrote: |
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| Possibly you are pressing the Baby down on your skin and it is coming in direct contact with the actual LEDs? |
Hi. Although I can't say that I'm using any pressure at all with the BQ, my skin on my chin DOES come in contact with the LED's. That is because of the shape of my small chin. I would have to hold the device away from my skin altogether to prevent any skin contact. I didn't know I was supposed to prevent contact.
As for the comparison with the larger model, does it create more heat from the LED's than the BQ? I don't think you answered that question. From what I understand, heat is created by infrared light. Is this more intense with the large unit?
Last question for the moment, how is this device at fading brown pigmentation marks (liver spots)? My BQ hasn't faded any at this point.
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For the "liver spots", it can take some time without the assistance of a product that uses hydroquinone as part of the forumla. Hydroquinone is awaiting a decision on if it will still be available in the U.S. There are some questions surrounding consumer safety as it is believed that hydroquinone is a possible carcinagine. There are other formulas that have no hydroquinone in them that claim they are as effective. I cannot vouch for these.
Here is some information on dark spots and hydroquinone:
What is the most important information I should know about hydroquinone topical?
• Avoid exposure to sunlight or artificial UV rays (e.g., sunlamps). Darkening of the skin may occur with exposure to sunlight or artificial UV light. Use a sunscreen (minimum SPF 15) and wear protective clothing when exposure to the sun or UV rays is unavoidable.
• Do not use hydroquinone topical on skin that is sunburned, windburned, dry, chapped, or irritated, or on an open wound. It could make these conditions worse. Wait until these conditions have healed before applying hydroquinone topical.
What is hydroquinone topical?
• Hydroquinone decreases the formation of melanin in the skin. Melanin is the pigment in skin that gives it a brown color.
• Hydroquinone topical is used to lighten areas of darkened skin such as freckles, age spots, cholasma, and melasma.
• Hydroquinone topical may also be used for purposes other than those listed here.
It is not a safety risk if your skin touches the actual LEDs for a brief period of time, but they do produce heat and that could cause irritation.
The professional Quasar SP has 5mm LEDs that are almost twice the size of that in the Baby Quasar. They can produce more warmth, but there is a lens that is between your skin and the LEDs. |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:12 pm |
| I read that photorejuvenation is good to tighten pores. Does it help loosen or remove blackheads? And if so, is there a good product that anyone has used with the quasar to help remove blackheads? Thanks! |
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Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:10 pm |
| Can you use this to soften scar tissue?? |
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:08 pm |
| I just received my SP!!! I had to get in on Friday (UPS mistake). |
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:36 pm |
| Woohoo! got my SP today. Didn't get a manual with it. Can anyone tell me, do you use it just the same way as the BQ? |
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:30 pm |
I SHOULD HAVE STAYED AWAY FROM THIS THREAD..LOL.
 I am on the fence....someone please push me  |
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:14 pm |
In answer to the heat question, my SP gets VERY hot when on the green or 1rst mode. I have to turn it off and let it cool down or it is way too hot to use on my face. But my Baby Q did also, but I figured that's because it took longer to do my face and neck and chest areas at once. I had to do only one area a night and took turns. I can't use the cone at all or it does burn to pull it off. James mentioned a "breaking in" period but my Baby Q didn't do it at first only in the end.  |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:48 pm |
I was wondering and asked James if covering the Botox treated areas and the Restylane treated areas, would avoid counteracting the results of Botox and Restylane. He suggested covering the areas with gauze. Can you add your opinion Annie or anyone else who has B & R?
Thanks, Patty |
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:32 pm |
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| In answer to the heat question, my SP gets VERY hot when on the green or 1rst mode. I have to turn it off and let it cool down or it is way too hot to use on my face. But my Baby Q did also, but I figured that's because it took longer to do my face and neck and chest areas at once. I had to do only one area a night and took turns. I can't use the cone at all or it does burn to pull it off. James mentioned a "breaking in" period but my Baby Q didn't do it at first only in the end. |
UH-oh. This doesn't sound good at all...  rosacea people are not supposed to put hot things on their face at all. Annie, how long does it take before it gets so hot you have to turn it off? It's funny because I specifically asked James about this and he didn't tell me about the SP being hotter than that BQ. |
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:21 am |
| PocoLoco wrote: |
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| In answer to the heat question, my SP gets VERY hot when on the green or 1rst mode. I have to turn it off and let it cool down or it is way too hot to use on my face. But my Baby Q did also, but I figured that's because it took longer to do my face and neck and chest areas at once. I had to do only one area a night and took turns. I can't use the cone at all or it does burn to pull it off. James mentioned a "breaking in" period but my Baby Q didn't do it at first only in the end. |
UH-oh. This doesn't sound good at all... rosacea people are not supposed to put hot things on their face at all. Annie, how long does it take before it gets so hot you have to turn it off? It's funny because I specifically asked James about this and he didn't tell me about the SP being hotter than that BQ. |
That's weird, mine gets warm but not what I'd call hot. I used the concentration cone without a problem - not hot to take off at all for me but I put it on at the last part of my treatment and used it for maybe 2 minutes, I'd say.
How long are you treating for? |
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:28 am |
I'm going to try to answer some of the questions if I can.
I know that the Quasar helps with pores but I don't know about the blackheads.
I'm not going to cover my Botox & Resty areas because I want to see if the Quasar will address the need to have these procedures done anymore. I talked to James and got a regime worked out to try for these areas, and I'll keep everyone posted. I'd rather not have to be stuck with sharp needles anymore!
Since this is a powerful device, I would not use it more than the recommended time w/o talking to James and getting a regime set up.
I have noticed the Quasar has faded a melasma spot I had on my neck over time, if that's the same as a liver spot.
I talked to James about the warmth of the Quasar. I was using it on the recommended passes and times. Mine only gets hot on the continous high "green"setting. Now hot to me may not be hot to everyone. My hubby said it was very warm, but not uncomfortable. But then I eat my food room temperature. Anyway, James said the heat is needed in order to kill the bacteria, so that makes sense. I'm going to be monitering my device, recording time lengths and letting him know after a few more uses. I'll also have hubby touch it for a relative comparison.
As far as rosacea, this type of heat seems to be fine for rosacea. It helps keep mine in check and it hasn't flared up since I started using the Baby Q in August. My derm has told me that rosacea is actually caused by some bacteria, which is why they sometimes put you on a long-term, low-dosed antibiotic to help control severe rosacea. I did confirm this with James. The heat from the green setting on the Quasar does not bother it at all. |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:51 am |
Thankyou, Annie.
I'm assuming we're supposed to move the SP along at twice the speed of the BQ, because of it being twice as powerful--is that right? So then it takes about 20 minutes to complete the whole process instead of 40? |
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:44 pm |
I recived my Quasar SP on Monday, but haven't tried it yet because the training manual didn't come with it. I'm very disappointed because for that amount of money, I expected a training CD, especially since the picture implied that it would be included. If I knew that it wasn't , I would have rather paid more and bought directly from EBay. I have e-mailed James, however he still has not responded.
The instructions that were very confusing, and it makes me not want to use the device until I know what I'm doing. I have the Baby Quasar (which I didn't trade in), but this one is more powerful and I don't want to do anything damaging to my skin if I try to use it the same way. |
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:47 pm |
Hmmm. It's surprising that no training manuals are being sent out with the SP.
Can people who are using the SP please post their routine? Thankyou. |
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:23 pm |
Does anyone know if I can use Cellex-C Hydra 5 B Complex instead of HA serum? My skin is very dry, and I would like to moisturize it prior to the treatment.
Active Ingredients: Hyaluronic acid, pantothenic acid.
Inactive Ingredients: Water, Sodium Hyaluronate, Pantothenic Acid, Phenoxyethanol.
Thank you. |
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:43 pm |
| power1080 wrote: |
I recived my Quasar SP on Monday, but haven't tried it yet because the training manual didn't come with it. I'm very disappointed because for that amount of money, I expected a training CD, especially since the picture implied that it would be included. If I knew that it wasn't , I would have rather paid more and bought directly from EBay. I have e-mailed James, however he still has not responded.
The instructions that were very confusing, and it makes me not want to use the device until I know what I'm doing. I have the Baby Quasar (which I didn't trade in), but this one is more powerful and I don't want to do anything damaging to my skin if I try to use it the same way. |
I have it. If you'll would like to give me your e-mail, I can send you a copy. I can also copy it here, but it is too long, and I don't know if it is O.K. to write such a long post. |
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:57 pm |
doba: I would love a copy too! I have PM'd you my email address.
Thank you! |
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:01 pm |
| Thankyou, Doba. Sending you a pm now... |
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