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Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:57 pm  |
| Bluegentian wrote: |
You won't regret it. I have just finished my first 8 week course. I've had ups and downs but overall think it is a revolution in home skin care. 'Downs' because pores/lines/brown spots haven't completely disappeared... unrealistic as I'm nearly 60 ...
'Ups' because my skin is clear and soft with a 'rejuvenated' look which I have never achieved with any other product however expensive. And I've had enough facials over the years to sink a ship   |
Thanks for the reassurance! I wonder how long it will take to get to California from the UK.
Very excited to have a new product to use and review! Wish the PaloVia could get the whole face because I honestly love it. |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:43 am |
EC - you will love the ReAura. It has a totally "professional" feel to it compared to the PaloVia and is so much easier to use.
Welcome to the perilous and bankrupting world of gadgets!! |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:02 am |
Lasers are reported to be best for pigmentation issues and needling best for reducing scars, etc and secondarily, to add in collagen to build up areas where it improves the appearance of wrinkles.
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:56 am |
| Keliu wrote: |
EC - you will love the ReAura. It has a totally "professional" feel to it compared to the PaloVia and is so much easier to use.
Welcome to the perilous and bankrupting world of gadgets!! |
Thank you! I am very much looking forward to getting started with it right away. Hopefully it arrives before mid-August because I go on vacation then and I'd like to use at least once or twice!
I wonder if it's worth keeping the PaloVia for just around the eyes? Or if I should just sell it and make some money back.
Quick question, since I'm in US how would I get more laser conductive gel?
I'm wondering if I could use the PaloVia gel with the ReAura?? (much cheaper and available in the US) Any thoughts about that? |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:15 am |
| Try it- if it works, good. I use generic vegetable glycerine, available at all pharmacies, as a substitute. It works fine, and is MUCH less expensive. |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:22 pm |
| mismis wrote: |
| Try it- if it works, good. I use generic vegetable glycerine, available at all pharmacies, as a substitute. It works fine, and is MUCH less expensive. |
Thanks for the suggestion. I like how I'm worrying about running out of gel before I even have the ReAura.
I read that they suggest only using the provided gel because other substances can
clog or ruin the tip, or somehow damage the laser. Do you think they are obviously just saying that to make more money? I'm just worried because of how expensive this thing is, I don't want to compromise it.
Maybe when I run out ill try palovia gel. I wonder if I would break out because of the mineral oil? Anyone know the ingredients to ReAuras gel?
Thanks everyone. |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:08 pm |
Just read while researching that the ReAura will be released in US from mid to late 2013, lol!
Wonder if it would have been smarter to wait it out and buy in US? Probably would have been cheaper. Hmm..anyway. |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:21 pm |
| EC413 wrote: |
Just read while researching that the ReAura will be released in US from mid to late 2013, lol!
Wonder if it would have been smarter to wait it out and buy in US? Probably would have been cheaper. Hmm..anyway. |
I would recommend reading this thread while you wait for your ReAura to arrive....lots of valuable info and tips.
That way you can focus on getting ready to use it instead of if you should have bought now vs later. |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:35 pm |
I have NOT tried mineral oil - just glycerine which is a major component of the proprietary gel for many devices.
Be careful if you try other things, you could get a burn. However I have used glycerin for months and it is fine, and cheap.
YES I do think they are just trying to maximize profit and keep you buying. If you are buying from UK I don't think you have a warranty anyways. |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:15 pm |
| mismis wrote: |
I have NOT tried mineral oil - just glycerine which is a major component of the proprietary gel for many devices.
Be careful if you try other things, you could get a burn. However I have used glycerin for months and it is fine, and cheap.
YES I do think they are just trying to maximize profit and keep you buying. If you are buying from UK I don't think you have a warranty anyways. |
Ill give it a try when I run out. How long do you think the gel will last? I'm only going to focus on my face for a while.
And lol about the warranty, makes me so nervous. Lets just hope nothing goes wrong in the first two years of me owning it, because that's what it comes with correct?
Also on eBay on the listing it says "2 year global warranty"...wonder if the merchant is giving me a warranty? Or if "global" means anywhere in the world? Hmm. |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:40 pm |
I got mine from NK Space and though she would sell it to me providing I had a UK delivery address, she told me I could expect nothing in the way of support once it was out of the country because it is not regulated for North America. But maybe your warranty is from the supplier, or things have changed.
I've had mine for over a year and use it a LOT - face, arms, neck, chest, inner thighs - and haven't had any problems at all. |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:57 pm |
| EC413 wrote: |
Quick question, since I'm in US how would I get more laser conductive gel?
I'm wondering if I could use the PaloVia gel with the ReAura?? (much cheaper and available in the US) Any thoughts about that? |
I've tried the Palovia gel with the Reaura. It works BUT it leaves my face with a pink sunburn look. The Palovia gel has a lot more oil in it than the Reaura gel. I would not use the Palovia gel as a regular item. I will try the glycerine sometime. |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:13 pm |
| ShastaGirl wrote: |
| EC413 wrote: |
Quick question, since I'm in US how would I get more laser conductive gel?
I'm wondering if I could use the PaloVia gel with the ReAura?? (much cheaper and available in the US) Any thoughts about that? |
I've tried the Palovia gel with the Reaura. It works BUT it leaves my face with a pink sunburn look. The Palovia gel has a lot more oil in it than the Reaura gel. I would not use the Palovia gel as a regular item. I will try the glycerine sometime. |
Glad to hear of someone that's tried it and thanks for the warning.
I wonder if regular conductive gel (cheap online) would also be a viable option. |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:22 pm |
Just found a website selling laser/ipl conductive gel. About 3$ for about 8.5 oz. I might buy some and just test it once. I mean the ReAura probably doesn't use some magic rare gel, correct? I could be wrong but I feel like any gel made for laser should do the job.
Here's what it says in their "laser gel" section:
"IPL Gel has a much higher viscosity than Ultrasound gel in order to disperse and minimise the heat produced by the laser or IPL equipment. The other significant difference between ultrasound gel and IPL Laser gel is that the Laser gel provides much more favourable results of refraction of light when passed through it when compared to other gels, this is especially important when a Laser is being used where accuracy is of paramount importance, for example on individual hair follicles. Our IPL / Laser gels contain no salt." |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:49 pm |
| EC413 wrote: |
Just found a website selling laser/ipl conductive gel. About 3$ for about 8.5 oz. I might buy some and just test it once. I mean the ReAura probably doesn't use some magic rare gel, correct? I could be wrong but I feel like any gel made for laser should do the job.
Here's what it says in their "laser gel" section:
"IPL Gel has a much higher viscosity than Ultrasound gel in order to disperse and minimise the heat produced by the laser or IPL equipment. The other significant difference between ultrasound gel and IPL Laser gel is that the Laser gel provides much more favourable results of refraction of light when passed through it when compared to other gels, this is especially important when a Laser is being used where accuracy is of paramount importance, for example on individual hair follicles. Our IPL / Laser gels contain no salt." |
Sounds cheap enough to try. Was there an ingredient list?
I'm in the US too, so trying to scope out my source for more gel once I run out! |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:12 pm |
| ShastaGirl wrote: |
| EC413 wrote: |
Just found a website selling laser/ipl conductive gel. About 3$ for about 8.5 oz. I might buy some and just test it once. I mean the ReAura probably doesn't use some magic rare gel, correct? I could be wrong but I feel like any gel made for laser should do the job.
Here's what it says in their "laser gel" section:
"IPL Gel has a much higher viscosity than Ultrasound gel in order to disperse and minimise the heat produced by the laser or IPL equipment. The other significant difference between ultrasound gel and IPL Laser gel is that the Laser gel provides much more favourable results of refraction of light when passed through it when compared to other gels, this is especially important when a Laser is being used where accuracy is of paramount importance, for example on individual hair follicles. Our IPL / Laser gels contain no salt." |
Sounds cheap enough to try. Was there an ingredient list?
I'm in the US too, so trying to scope out my source for more gel once I run out! |
Don't think there was an ingredient list, I found that on a UK website, wonder if they ship to US?
Just found a US site selling Laser conductive gel, $19.95 for a 5 liter container and it comes with a refillable 8.5 oz bottle.
Heres some info from site. It's called:
" Wavelength High Viscosity Gel
(For Laser-Related and Light-Based Applications)
Specially Formulated To Be Ultra Clear
Contains No Salt, Alcohol, Fragrance or Dye
Advanced Water Soluble, Hypoallergenic, Bacteriostatic Formulation
Stays In Place
Conductive, Non-Corrosive, Greaseless & Non-Staining" |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:38 pm |
mismis can I ask you about using it on inner thigh area? What issues were you treating and how did it go?
I'm interested about the possibilities of using reaura on the body, which I havent done yet. |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:40 pm |
EC413
I am in the UK and would love a link to the laser gel you found! |
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:06 pm |
| catski wrote: |
EC413
I am in the UK and would love a link to the laser gel you found! |
Here you go:
http://www.ultrasoundgel.co.uk/ipl-gel.html
Doing a lot of research (as usual lol) for gel substitutes. Lots of people that run medspas and do fraxel and ipl treatments on patients say that their favorite and most used gel for fraxel treatments is a regular CLEAR ultrasound gel. They stressed clear because there is also a blue tinted gel that you can get.
I've seen the procedure before, they slab on a thick coat of it before the treatment. Wonder if we just applied a very thin layer and used the Reaura? There are bottles of clear ultrasound gel on eBay for $6 for 9oz. When my laser performance gel runs out ill be the guinea pig and try a clear ultrasound gel. 
I want to find the cheapest substitute. I just feel like the price of more Philips gel is outrageous considering how much you already pay for the device. |
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:17 am |
| EC413 wrote: |
| ShastaGirl wrote: |
| EC413 wrote: |
Just found a website selling laser/ipl conductive gel. About 3$ for about 8.5 oz. I might buy some and just test it once. I mean the ReAura probably doesn't use some magic rare gel, correct? I could be wrong but I feel like any gel made for laser should do the job.
Here's what it says in their "laser gel" section:
"IPL Gel has a much higher viscosity than Ultrasound gel in order to disperse and minimise the heat produced by the laser or IPL equipment. The other significant difference between ultrasound gel and IPL Laser gel is that the Laser gel provides much more favourable results of refraction of light when passed through it when compared to other gels, this is especially important when a Laser is being used where accuracy is of paramount importance, for example on individual hair follicles. Our IPL / Laser gels contain no salt." |
Sounds cheap enough to try. Was there an ingredient list?
I'm in the US too, so trying to scope out my source for more gel once I run out! |
Don't think there was an ingredient list, I found that on a UK website, wonder if they ship to US?
Just found a US site selling Laser conductive gel, $19.95 for a 5 liter container and it comes with a refillable 8.5 oz bottle.
Heres some info from site. It's called:
" Wavelength High Viscosity Gel
(For Laser-Related and Light-Based Applications)
Specially Formulated To Be Ultra Clear
Contains No Salt, Alcohol, Fragrance or Dye
Advanced Water Soluble, Hypoallergenic, Bacteriostatic Formulation
Stays In Place
Conductive, Non-Corrosive, Greaseless & Non-Staining" |
I bought and tried both the Wavelength High Viscosity gel and Aguasonic Clear ultrasound gel by Parker. Neither of these gels worked as good as the ReAura gel. I don't know if it is the thickness or ingredients but I couldn't get the laser to "fire" consistently. It would work but I would have to stop and either clean the plastic cap off with a tissue or take the cap totally off and clean the laser window with a q-tip. The problem with taking the cap off is it shuts off the laser. So if your in the middle of a treatment it messes up your time spent on that area. I found the whole thing frustrating and not worth it.
I live in the US and was looking for a better solution then buying gel from the UK. I ended up calling SpaceNK and just ordering a few tubes of ReAura gel over the phone. I tried to order online from the UK site but it wouldn't let me. The tubes do last a long time especially if your only using it on your face, neck and chest. I do think the price is a rip off but because I use so little and the tube last so long it was the best solution for me. |
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:43 am |
| CookieD wrote: |
| EC413 wrote: |
| ShastaGirl wrote: |
| EC413 wrote: |
Just found a website selling laser/ipl conductive gel. About 3$ for about 8.5 oz. I might buy some and just test it once. I mean the ReAura probably doesn't use some magic rare gel, correct? I could be wrong but I feel like any gel made for laser should do the job.
Here's what it says in their "laser gel" section:
"IPL Gel has a much higher viscosity than Ultrasound gel in order to disperse and minimise the heat produced by the laser or IPL equipment. The other significant difference between ultrasound gel and IPL Laser gel is that the Laser gel provides much more favourable results of refraction of light when passed through it when compared to other gels, this is especially important when a Laser is being used where accuracy is of paramount importance, for example on individual hair follicles. Our IPL / Laser gels contain no salt." |
Sounds cheap enough to try. Was there an ingredient list?
I'm in the US too, so trying to scope out my source for more gel once I run out! |
Don't think there was an ingredient list, I found that on a UK website, wonder if they ship to US?
Just found a US site selling Laser conductive gel, $19.95 for a 5 liter container and it comes with a refillable 8.5 oz bottle.
Heres some info from site. It's called:
" Wavelength High Viscosity Gel
(For Laser-Related and Light-Based Applications)
Specially Formulated To Be Ultra Clear
Contains No Salt, Alcohol, Fragrance or Dye
Advanced Water Soluble, Hypoallergenic, Bacteriostatic Formulation
Stays In Place
Conductive, Non-Corrosive, Greaseless & Non-Staining" |
I bought and tried both the Wavelength High Viscosity gel and Aguasonic Clear ultrasound gel by Parker. Neither of these gels worked as good as the ReAura gel. I don't know if it is the thickness or ingredients but I couldn't get the laser to "fire" consistently. It would work but I would have to stop and either clean the plastic cap off with a tissue or take the cap totally off and clean the laser window with a q-tip. The problem with taking the cap off is it shuts off the laser. So if your in the middle of a treatment it messes up your time spent on that area. I found the whole thing frustrating and not worth it.
I live in the US and was looking for a better solution then buying gel from the UK. I ended up calling SpaceNK and just ordering a few tubes of ReAura gel over the phone. I tried to order online from the UK site but it wouldn't let me. The tubes do last a long time especially if your only using it on your face, neck and chest. I do think the price is a rip off but because I use so little and the tube last so long it was the best solution for me. |
Maybe you're right. Maybe Philips specially formulated a gel that has the right thickness, viscosity, ingredients, etc to work well with the ReAura, the price really is a shame though.
So you just called spacenk and they took your order even though you live in US?
I'm getting so impatient. Bought the ReAura on eBay Wednesday morning and it's now Friday morning and no notice of it being shipped. When you pay so much for something and when you pay right away you expect the product to ship promptly, especially since it has to pass customs. 
Oh well, I'll get it eventually. |
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:03 am |
EC- you have to call a SpaceNk store directly in the UK to order the gel. I tried to order through their New York office but it didn't work. You can only order the gel by calling not the laser.
If I were you I wouldn't worry about ordering any for awhile. A tube last a long time. Especially if, like your heard, they are coming out with the laser here in the US. You should be able to get the gel here then and not go through the hassle of ordering it from oversees. Plus the shipping charge was fairly high. |
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:18 pm |
Hello to all ,
My nickname is Zed .Maybe some of you knowing me.
I have not posted here ,on EDS , yet .Probably not last post .
Somebody asked ReAura's gel's ingredients. And these are quite a lot.
RéAura Laser Performance Gel:
Caprylic/Capric Triglycerides, Dicaprylyl Carbonate, Glycerin, Water (Aqua, Eau), Sucrose Stearate, Sucrose Laurate, Benzyl Alcohol, Leontopodium Alpinum Flower/Leaf/Stem Extract, Alcohol, Hypericum Perforatum Flower/Leaf/Stem Extract
RéAura Laser Aftercare Complex:
Water (Aqua, Eau), Cetearyl Alcohol, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Butter, Isohexadecane, Pentylene Glycol, Glycerin, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Hydrogenated Polyisobutene, Steareth-21, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Glyceryl Polymethacrylate, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Sterols, PCA Dimethicone, Sodium PCA, Ammonium Acryloyldimethyltaurate/VP Copolymer, Cetearyl Glucoside, Propylene Gylcol, Sodium Polyacrylate, Benzyl PCA, Panthenol, Phenoxyethanol, Dipropylene Glycol, Dimethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Trideceth-6, Arnica Montana Flower Extract, Bisabolol, Leontopodium Alpinum Flower/Leaf Extract, Tamarindus Indica Seed Polysaccharide, Trehalose, Triethanolamine, Boswellia Serrata Gum, Alcohol, Argania Spinosa Leaf Exract, Hypericum Perforatum (St. Johns Wort) Extract, Pyrus Malus (Apple) Fruit Extract, Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate, Camellia Oleifera (Green Tea) Leaf Extract, Myrothamnus Flabellifolia Leaf/Stem Extract, PEG/PPG 18/18 Dimethicone, Resveratrol, Phospholipids, Lactoyl Phytosphingosine (Ceramide 3), Tocopherol, Lactoyl Phytosphingosine (Ceramide 6 II), Cholesterol, Phytosphingosine, Carbomer, Xanthan Gum, Retinyl Palmitate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Lactoyl Phytosphingosine (Ceramide 1)
All credits for this information going to my friend ,she knows , if she is reading my post:).
Zed |
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:29 pm |
| CookieD wrote: |
EC- you have to call a SpaceNk store directly in the UK to order the gel. I tried to order through their New York office but it didn't work. You can only order the gel by calling not the laser.
If I were you I wouldn't worry about ordering any for awhile. A tube last a long time. Especially if, like your heard, they are coming out with the laser here in the US. You should be able to get the gel here then and not go through the hassle of ordering it from oversees. Plus the shipping charge was fairly high. |
Thank you Cookie. I'm sure by the time I run out, the laser will be available to purchase in the US and I will probably be able to easily order it from several sources. |
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:30 pm |
| rzydrius0819 wrote: |
Hello to all ,
My nickname is Zed .Maybe some of you knowing me.
I have not posted here ,on EDS , yet .Probably not last post .
Somebody asked ReAura's gel's ingredients. And these are quite a lot.
RéAura Laser Performance Gel:
Caprylic/Capric Triglycerides, Dicaprylyl Carbonate, Glycerin, Water (Aqua, Eau), Sucrose Stearate, Sucrose Laurate, Benzyl Alcohol, Leontopodium Alpinum Flower/Leaf/Stem Extract, Alcohol, Hypericum Perforatum Flower/Leaf/Stem Extract
RéAura Laser Aftercare Complex:
Water (Aqua, Eau), Cetearyl Alcohol, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Butter, Isohexadecane, Pentylene Glycol, Glycerin, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Hydrogenated Polyisobutene, Steareth-21, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Glyceryl Polymethacrylate, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Sterols, PCA Dimethicone, Sodium PCA, Ammonium Acryloyldimethyltaurate/VP Copolymer, Cetearyl Glucoside, Propylene Gylcol, Sodium Polyacrylate, Benzyl PCA, Panthenol, Phenoxyethanol, Dipropylene Glycol, Dimethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Trideceth-6, Arnica Montana Flower Extract, Bisabolol, Leontopodium Alpinum Flower/Leaf Extract, Tamarindus Indica Seed Polysaccharide, Trehalose, Triethanolamine, Boswellia Serrata Gum, Alcohol, Argania Spinosa Leaf Exract, Hypericum Perforatum (St. Johns Wort) Extract, Pyrus Malus (Apple) Fruit Extract, Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate, Camellia Oleifera (Green Tea) Leaf Extract, Myrothamnus Flabellifolia Leaf/Stem Extract, PEG/PPG 18/18 Dimethicone, Resveratrol, Phospholipids, Lactoyl Phytosphingosine (Ceramide 3), Tocopherol, Lactoyl Phytosphingosine (Ceramide 6 II), Cholesterol, Phytosphingosine, Carbomer, Xanthan Gum, Retinyl Palmitate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Lactoyl Phytosphingosine (Ceramide 1)
All credits for this information going to my friend ,she knows , if she is reading my post:).
Zed |
Thank you for posting the ingredients!
However, once the aftercare complex runs out, I won't be getting more. I'll find my own post-products to use. Does anyone use aloe vera gel (cooled) after using the ReAura?
But since glycerin is a ingredient in the "laser performance gel", maybe like mismis suggested, using regular glycerin (found cheap in stores) would work just fine. |
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