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Michele
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Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:15 am  |
| I was reading chat from November and someone said they knew how to make the C + E Serum that SkinCeuticals sells for $122. Does anyone know how to make it? |
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You mentioned that you can make the equalivant of Skinceuticals C+E at home. How do you do that? |
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Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:58 am |
| i would be interested too.... better yet, is there any way to make the C+E Ferulic ? I noticed that you can order "trans ferulic acid" as supplements... is that the same thing? |
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labbate
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Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:23 am |
| I keep trying to find a recipe that makes the same serum as skinceuticals ferulic acid C&E. Can't someone please tell me how to make that serum or something similar. I allready know how to make an L-ascorbic acid serum by itself, but I need the other recipe with ferulic and vitamin E !!???[/b] |
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Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:00 pm |
| Not sure if its right but I jusr add ferulic acid to my homemeade vit c serum, off the top of mt head I'd jusr add the vit e also if its available in powder form. |
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labbate
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Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:03 pm |
Really? I heard the ferulic acid doesn't dissolve in glycol or water? Exacly how do you make it?
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:03 am |
| Hmmm, I just add a vit E cap.. Prick a hole and squeez it in.. Is this not good? |
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Colorful Colorado! Highlands Ranch, a burb south of Denver... |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:05 am |
| Kiki--wouldn't you need an emulsifier so the vitamin E can mix with the water or aloe base? |
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about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:45 am |
Kiki
With the ferulic acid, it did take a while for it to dissolve, but so does the l'asorbic acid powder that I use, it might have taken a day or two of shaking it but it did eventually dissolve. There may be a better way of doing this, so I hope someone more experienced or more knowledgable can chime in. |
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26, combination skin with oily t-zone |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:19 am |
| I found that adding a little HA helps the dissolving process in this. |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:22 am |
| How do you control the ph of your serums knowing that a low ph is required to make an effective c serum? |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:57 am |
Marina, I copied this out of another post. The post was by Tangal. Hopefully, it will be helpful.
The pH Scale
The pH scale goes from 0-14, this covers most wet substances, though some substances can be extreamly acid or base, and go beyond this scale. But for skincare products, you will not be using these.
-Acids have pH values under 7 - they are more acidic then water (acid)
-alkalis have pH values over 7 - they are more alkaline then water (base)
-If a substance has a pH value of 7 - it is neutral, like water, (neither acid nor base)
The difference between one pH, is one unit of measure, and represents tenfold, or ten times the change.
Each whole number below 7 is ten times more acidic then the next higher number. (6.0 to 7.0 for example) Each whole number above is ten times more alkaline.
The segments between each whole value are divided into increments of 10ths. Not increments of one. Similar to the way a ruler has both inches, and 16ths of inches divisions between each inch marker ( 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3 …)
For example, a cleanser with a pH of 6 is ten times more alkaline than a cleanser with a pH of 5.
A cleanser with a pH of 7 is 100 times more alkaline then one of 5.
Skin pH is 4.5 to 5.5, which is a recommended cleanser range, for best skin health.
Because of this, only a few units of pH can make a big difference in how a product or your skin reacts.
(A pH scale tells you if a product is more acid or alkaline/base. 7 is neutral - it is equally acid and base. Any number less then 7 is acidic, any number higher then 7 is alkaline)
pH Examples
Some pH examples:
pH 1 battery acid - (acid extreme)
pH 1.5 -2 = Gastric (stomach) acid
pH 2.5 = Cola soft drinks
pH 2 = lemon juice
pH 3 = vinegar
ph = 3.5 Orange Juice
pH 4.6-5.5 = healthy skin
pH 5.5 = rain, (pure water, when exposed to the atmosphere, will take in carbon dioxide, changing its pH)
pH 6.5 = milk
pH 6.5 – 7.4 = Healthy Saliva
pH 7 = pure distilled water - (this is Neutral pH, neither acid or base)[/color]
pH 7.35 – 7.45 = human blood
pH 8.5 = baking soda
pH 9 = Sea Water
pH 9.0-10.0 = Hand Soap, detergents
pH 10.5 = Milk of Magnesia
pH 11.5 = household ammonia
pH 12.5 = household bleach
pH 13 = lye (sodium hydroxide, or Draino)(Alkaline or Base extreme) |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:23 pm |
| ariesxtreme wrote: |
Kiki
With the ferulic acid, it did take a while for it to dissolve, but so does the l'asorbic acid powder that I use, it might have taken a day or two of shaking it but it did eventually dissolve. There may be a better way of doing this, so I hope someone more experienced or more knowledgable can chime in. |
Oh heck, I have NO idea...LOL I'm trying to hard to learn things, and in the process getting myself so much more confussed...
I just give the bottle a shake before I use it, figuring the oil and water will have seperated... I know that's probably not the best thing to do either...
Soooo, am I just wasting my time here? Really, I want to know! |
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Colorful Colorado! Highlands Ranch, a burb south of Denver... |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:29 pm |
OH,really?I'm interested to hear this news.But actually i don't confident that i can DIY "SkinCeuticals C+E serum"?  |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:23 am |
Hello, I am new to EDS and this is my very first post.
The following is my recipe for C&E Ferulic, which I first posted on the SAS forum. Hope it is helpful, but you will need a digital scale, which is not at all expensive if you get it off Ebay like I did.
I have not included a preservative in it - because it was so cheap to make, I kept it in the fridge, and used the lot within 10 days on my face, neck, decolletage and forearms (basically slapped it on very liberally after my morning shower, before sealing it in with body lotion).
You will need a digital scale for the level of precision I am prescribing below:
Aloe vera juice 25% 12.5g
Seakelp 25% 12.5g
Distilled water 30% 15.0g
Ascorbic Acid 15% 7.5g
Glycerin 3% 1.5g
Vitamin E 1% 0.5g
Ferulic acid 0.5% 0.25g
Polysorbate 20 0.5% 0.25g
Phase A: Dissolve L-Ascorbic Acid in distilled water via agitation and gentle heating (warm, never hot or you will denature the ascorbic acid).
Phase B: Dissolve the ferulic acid in the glycerin - some "spirited" stirring may be necessary. (Besides being quite an effective solvent, glycerin is also a humectant).
Phase C: Mix together Phase A, Phase B, aloe vera juice, seakelp, Vit.E and Polysorbate 20 (PS20 is necessary to emulsify the anti-ox booster) and stir/agitate until homogenized. |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:39 am |
| Thank you & welcome. Michele, I think you've got your answer. |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:07 am |
nyonyakay,
Thank you so much for the recipe! Much appreciated  . |
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26, combination skin with oily t-zone |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:01 pm |
My pleasure. I have been looking for a more impartial skin forum to discuss issues and raw ingredients. Since discovering Skin Actives, Bulk Actives, Garden of Wisdom, Beyond-A-Century, etc., over the past six months, formulating for family and friends has become a hobby.
I have purchased a digital thermometer, digital scale, spatulas, jars, dropper bottles, syringes, etc. and raw materials galore. I read ingredients lists voraciously, and find Wikipedia a very useful bio-chemistry resource.
Skin Actives was a wonderful start, but the heavy censorship I have seen (and been subject to) in the past few months have caused me to withdraw to the sidelines there and just watch some of the borderline sycophantic postings.
I like the feel of this forum very much, and look forward to participating and contributing further.
Thank you for the warm welcome! |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:55 pm |
nyonyakay - I agree SAS way too censored! This is a great forum!
Sorry, meant to add where did you find the ferulic at? Thanks in advance! |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:03 pm |
| bulkactives dot com. They are very reasonably priced, and very reliable. |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:15 pm |
| Thank you! I'll check them out. |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:33 pm |
| nyonyakay wrote: |
... I have been looking for a more impartial skin forum to discuss issues and raw ingredients. ...
Skin Actives was a wonderful start, but the heavy censorship I have seen (and been subject to) in the past few months have caused me to withdraw to the sidelines there and just watch some of the borderline sycophantic postings.
I like the feel of this forum very much, and look forward to participating and contributing further.
Thank you for the warm welcome! |
Nyonyakay, welcome! You'll love it here!
Have you tried going over to Skin Interactive's site? It seems to me its a break off group from SAS. I just registered there in the last couple days and looked briefly at the site and it seems to be nice as do the people there. You might like it better than SAS's forum. |
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labbate
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Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:06 pm |
| Thanks Nyonyakay for your recipe!!! This forum does seem to be more open and friendly. Thanks a lot!!! |
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labbate
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Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:11 pm |
| Hi Nyonyakay what kind of digital scale did you buy on ebay a postal scale. I'm not sure which kind of scale to buy? |
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Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:21 pm |
Labbate,
I bought the Triton-550t/0.1g, which is the second digital scale on the right on this webpage - it has an umpteen year guarantee, but for the price, if it broke, I'd just get another one anyway and not go through the hassle of claiming it.
http://stores.ebay.com.au/BELLOSPORT/DIGITAL-POCKET-SCALES.html
So far, no issues with it (I think I have been using it for 4 months) and the postage and shipping charges from this Ebay trader was reasonable. Also, quick shipment from the trader.
It has made a HUGE difference to tweaking my formulations. |
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labbate
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Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:31 pm |
| Thankyou so much for your help!! |
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