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Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:24 am  |
okay. i admit it. when it comes to eyebrows, i'm as inept as they come! i've seen so many gorgeous brows on members from pics in the forum, i thought perhaps i could gather pointers....
i have naturally thick eyebrows, well, actually eyebrow would be more correct (yes, i'm one of those neanderthal unibrow gals). after looking like a plucked chicken after my attempts (or even going to salons where they eyed my blank slate brows as a pluckers delight), i gave up. i look better with thick brows. enter the magical Anastasia who was able to give me thick yet well groomed and arched brows. i was addicted, but could never keep it up more than minimally myself. i was more than willing to pay for her service (and my own ineptitude). but now i'm far away and have the worst brows possible. my broken elbow kept me from even a general upkeep and it looks like a forest above my eyes. i'm loathe to get it done professionally here because of all my bad past experiences.... i have the Anastasia stencils, but really no clue as how to use them. where do i start? where does the arch go? how do you all manage to keep your brows looking so amazing??? |
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Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:13 am |
I'd love to be able to offer advice, but only have sympathy right now. Maybe this'll make you feel better:
I have very thick, heavy brows too, and the hairs are actually pretty long so I need to use eyebrow gel to keep them under some semblance of control. Normally I don't do much with them other than pluck a few stray hairs from underneath.
Well, the other night I got really aggravated with them, and decided that what I really needed to do was to trim them - just a bit... As I'd had a few glasses of wine, I was feeling pretty brave and so I just had to get on with it right away. Out came the mirror and the nail scissors and now I have thick heavy brows with bald patches  . I look like my eyebrows have been scalped! Never again - as soon as they grow back I'm going to find a professional to tidy them up! |
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Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:34 am |
| fifi wrote: |
| As I'd had a few glasses of wine, I was feeling pretty brave and so I just had to get on with it right away. Out came the mirror and the nail scissors and now I have thick heavy brows with bald patches . I look like my eyebrows have been scalped! Never again - as soon as they grow back I'm going to find a professional to tidy them up! |
note to self -- do not do this whilst drinking  thank you, fifi. i'm not laughing at you, i'm laughing *with* you. as i was typing this out, i realised that maybe i *was* a hopeless and needed to go with a professional as i'd only probably muck it up myself! still curious as hell as to how all these women have such great brows. nice to know from you, though, that i'm not the only one with less than delicate brows. i do hope your patches grow back soon (still chuckling -- it is so something i would do!). ah, the evil bravado in a few glasses of vino  . i salute you. |
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Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:12 am |
Well, I know you said you didn't want to go to a professional, but that's the best way to get a shape that will suit your face. Once you have that, it's just maitenance. I haven't had mine done in several months. I just use tweezers and scissors to trim them as they get long and wild. Try holding a warm, wet washcloth on your brow before you tweeze-- it'll make the hair come out easier which = less pain!
I'm not sure where the arch is supposed to go but I know the head of your eyebrow should line up with the inner corner of your eye. |
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Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:23 am |
I have always done my own eyebrows, I really want to try threading but Im too scared to turn over control to a stranger! Here are the rules I use to keep my brows in shape(no pun intended!).
1. Tweeze after a shower in natural light, I sit on my patio.
2. To find where your brows should start, hold a pencil vertically beside your nose. I think this is the biggest mistake that women make, plucking too far out, it makes them look older and ruins the shape of the brow. This is where I start.
3. To find where your brows should end, when you are calculating where they start rotate the pencil out till it's at a 90 degree angle. This is about where they sould end. Once you have these steps in place and marked or plucked it makes it easier to tackle tweezing.
4. I then pluck all strays but, dont extend into the brow shape yet. (NEVER pluck above the brows!!!!)
5. Once all strays are gone take a minute and examine your brows in a bigger mirror, look at the shape and get an idea of how much and where you need to pluck to achive your shape. At this point I run some Ardell thru them to hold the shape while I pluck.
6. DONT overpluck! If you want to remove a cluster of hairs in an area, instead of just yanking them out, comb them down or away from your brow and check the mirror first. This way you can get an idea of what it will look like without the commitment of having them gone and make adjustments.
7. If your not sure what shape you want, look thru a mag and find someone with a similar face shape and brows that you like to use as a guide.
8. Your arch should be gradual not pointy or harsh. It should start(the highest point)about where your iris ends and gently taper out. Never tweeze into your arch, you should create a soft shape by coaxing the arch out. In other words, if you remove strays your arch should naturally come out and you should only have to remove a few more hairs for a clean, groomed look.
Be CONFIDENT! Personal grooming does not have to be left to stranger and cost alot of money! You *can* do it yourself! I do all my own grooming, waxing(sans brazillian, learned the hard way, best left to a pro! ) and cutting. All it takes is practice and patience. I hope all that makes sense and helps someone!  |
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Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:17 am |
Thanks Molly! Much better than my explanation! |
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Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:25 am |
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| Thanks Molly! Much better than my explanation! |
No, your explanation's useful, really. I'm just about to reshape mine because they've fallen into disrepair so it's timely. I must confess I was having a bit of trouble with the angles though  |
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Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:58 am |
| What if you can't achieve an arch in the proper location? One eye can. One eye can't. What do you do? |
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Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:59 am |
Wish I'd seen that link before scarfing down the best part of a bottle of shiraz the other night. Still think that I need to see a professional to get my brows into a decent shape before I take over maintenance again though  ! |
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Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:16 am |
| Molly wrote: |
| What if you can't achieve an arch in the proper location? One eye can. One eye can't. What do you do? |
I have the same problem, each brow is shaped differently, I think that most peoples are that way. What I try to do is shape them separately then go back and do some minor tweaking to get them similar/even to each other. |
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Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:46 am |
| I found it. http://www.eyebrowz.com/timeforfun.htm This is the site I was originally looking for. The first time I plucked my eyebrows, which was only about 3 years ago actually, I chose a pair to emulate from these selections (without buying the stencils). Makes it much easier for me. |
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:32 am |
| vonstella wrote: |
8. Your arch should be gradual not pointy or harsh. It should start(the highest point)about where your iris ends and gently taper out. Never tweeze into your arch, you should create a soft shape by coaxing the arch out. In other words, if you remove strays your arch should naturally come out and you should only have to remove a few more hairs for a clean, groomed look.
Be CONFIDENT! Personal grooming does not have to be left to stranger and cost alot of money! You *can* do it yourself! |
thank you so much for that! everything you say makes sense. unfortunately, i fear, i have no natural arch (i was obviously playing hookey when they were passed out). as for confidence . i'm ready to show up on your door step and have *you* do it -- your brows are so lovely. if you find a strange redhead stalking you, don't worry. it's only for your plucking skills |
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:34 am |
| I would really recommend that you get them shaped professionally, then you can keep them tidy at home with tweezers. A word of caution though, make sure your therapist understands what you want, I went to get my brown done today and said I didn't want them any thinner as I'm trying to grow them in, I just wanted them tidied up. Somehow the therapist took that to mean I wanted them as thin as a pencil line! Can't believ it, will now have to fill them in until they grow back a bit! |
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:01 pm |
| Vonstella and Molly's advice is great! I'm terrified to let anyone else do my brows too because I'm afraid of what happened to Racheal! |
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:02 pm |
I agree you have to find the right person. I have had mine threaded for a few years (previously waxed). The last year with this one brilliant lady. Recently she went on hols for 4 weeks and I had to get it done by someone else at the salon. She did them too thin, even my hubby noticed (and believe me that means something). I was quite upset about it, beforehand people would stop me in the street and ask about my eyebrows.
It's taken me a month since she's got back to get them back to normal, in fact they are still not quite there yet but they will be after next week.
BTW she threads above as well so I don't buy that not doing the above thing (she does the best job of anyone who's ever done thing, and all of them were better than anything I'd have done at home). |
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:00 pm |
i will have to disagree with vonstella about plucking the top. I am asian and my natural brows are pretty crazy, so i MUST pluck the top or else i look super evil. even brow professionals i have been to even out the top for me. vonstella, forgive me for disagreeing, but it looks like you have awesome naturally shaped eyebrows so plucking the top would ruin your beautiful shape!  |
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Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:23 am |
| daisylondon wrote: |
| I agree you have to find the right person. I have had mine threaded for a few years (previously waxed). The last year with this one brilliant lady. |
ooooh, daisylondon! where is she? i admit to being fearful of over-plucking and just haven't found any place i trust here yet. unless i just lose it, i think i'll try to wait it out til i find somebody.... i will be, however, in london next month. do you mind sharing her details? my oyster card is ready! (BTW, i am really spoiled by Anastasia. went to london last year after she'd done them and had all the gals at Liberty oohing and ahing over my brows. and my brows are naturally crap!) |
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