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Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:50 pm  |
Thanks for the advice, Scalawaggirl. I really mean it. You, CareKate and the others who have written in this thread have done untold good for many women by recommending this and posting your results, but I'm sure you know that. You and Cesce deserve thanks in particular for posting photos, which really had an impact on me. It's so hard navigating the "beauty" world as hapless consumers. It's ironic that the only people you can really trust are either SA/Beauty therapists/Derms etc who you actually "know" yourself, or "strangers" who you will never meet, but who are good-hearted enough to share their honest opinions and experiences on forums like this. Bravo to you all!
Incidentally, I was thinking Sophie too, but didn't want to offend any Meryl Streep fans 
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:49 pm |
| Nzgrrl wrote: |
MG, you made me bust out loud laughing at the image of poor, charred corpse with beauty tools under each arm and, of course, beautifully preserved face (being impervious to flame due to miracle effects of said tools, of course!) 
Now I take it you are one of these girls? Do tell.... |
Who ME?  Whatever gave you that idea?
Actually, I don't have any of the gadgets - YET! I am seriously lemming the BQ and NuFace, as well as a thermal massager Scally got (I'm kind of like Scally's shadow - we have the same ideas on a lot of things and now apparently we can read each others' minds!), and an Oxylight and a DermaWand, and a ... you get the idea!
And YOUR image of a charred body with a perfectly preserved face made ME bust out laughing! Wonder what the fire investigator would say about that one? Newspaper headline: "Woman with Oddly Preserved Face Perishes in Fire Trying to Save Beauty Devices." - News at 11! |
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:54 pm |
| scalawaggirl wrote: |
| Edited: MG, you must've posted while I was replying. We really are on the same brain pattern. Too funny. Solomon! |
| la vie en rose wrote: |
| i was thinking Sophie myself.... |
| Nzgrrl wrote: |
| Incidentally, I was thinking Sophie too, but didn't want to offend any Meryl Streep fans |
Ok, I have to ask a really stupid question ... what do you guys mean by Solomon and Sophie? Please explain! I am so out of the loop on this one!
P.S. Scally, I think one of us is channeling the other or something! |
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:32 pm |
| MermaidGirl wrote: |
| scalawaggirl wrote: |
| Edited: MG, you must've posted while I was replying. We really are on the same brain pattern. Too funny. Solomon! |
| la vie en rose wrote: |
| i was thinking Sophie myself.... |
| Nzgrrl wrote: |
| Incidentally, I was thinking Sophie too, but didn't want to offend any Meryl Streep fans |
Ok, I have to ask a really stupid question ... what do you guys mean by Solomon and Sophie? Please explain! I am so out of the loop on this one!
P.S. Scally, I think one of us is channeling the other or something! |
Yep, 'tis true, K. Solomon (biblical king guy who was supposed to be wise making a choice w/a baby w/2 moms claiming ownership - threatened to cut the tot in half so the real mom would scream - blah blah - basically a "making hard choice" reference as is Sophie from Sophie's Choice played by Meryl Streep in a war story about woman fleeing Nazis deciding which child to keep - very sad, actually.
So, less sad thinking about saving the BQ and Nuface.  |
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Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:13 pm |
Thank you S-girl. I was dreading having to explain the depths of our depravity in comparing loss of children to that of "frivolous" (and yet hugely expensive) beauty tools. 
And for all you pet lovers, it's the equivalent of choosing who's a-going to the pound: Fido or Kitty? |
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:51 am |
| scalawaggirl wrote: |
... Solomon (biblical king guy who was supposed to be wise making a choice w/a baby w/2 moms claiming ownership - threatened to cut the tot in half so the real mom would scream - blah blah - basically a "making hard choice" reference as is Sophie from Sophie's Choice played by Meryl Streep in a war story about woman fleeing Nazis deciding which child to keep - very sad, actually.
So, less sad thinking about saving the BQ and Nuface. |
Ok, I'm *such* a big dweeb! I totally know the Solomon story - we use the term "splitting the baby" in the legal field to refer to a judge who won't make the right decision (for one side or the other), but instead insists on trying to appease both sides.
As for "Sophie's Choice" - I never saw that movie, so that explains why *that* went right over my noggin'! And I thought the bleach had actually sunk all the way through this time!
Thanks for the explanation, you guys! |
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:53 am |
| Nzgrrl wrote: |
| Thank you S-girl. I was dreading having to explain the depths of our depravity in comparing loss of children to that of "frivolous" (and yet hugely expensive) beauty tools. |
yeah, that was pretty shallow of me  if it makes it any better, intellectually, i was thinking of Styron and not Streep. come to think of it, that probably makes it even worse i'm a bad bad person (slaps her own hand) but thank god i'm NOT alone! |
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:20 am |
Ooh Scal-girl I want to be your flatmate, or sister, can I adopt you
Have been hunting round threads for the ones on tca peel as my internet has been down and just back on and my wishlist has grown considerably. I either need to win the lotter or marry a millionaire, and know both are out
Was sold on the BabyQuasar and now thinking about Nuface as well
Am making lenghty notes as well as saving your routine scalwaggirl, it must take you ages, and you must be so discaplined. I am full of good intentions but a bit hit and miss, have vitamins in cupboard, but only start to take when feel a cold coming on or under the weather, perhaps should try hypnosis 
Was going to go to pilates this morning but got caught up in all these threads, good intentions again, I will continue to look round, with my wish list growing by the minute, am already to order my tca though.
Keep up the good work, you look fantastic in your pictures, I wonder if these salespeople need any guineapigs to practise on, cos I will happily volunteer |
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Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:25 pm |
| Any updates from new NUface users????? |
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Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:39 pm |
| Scally, have you tried the NuFace in the Scalp area like someone suggested? I am thinking that would be like a brow lift, which I am seriously considering. Hoping this will hold me off for a few years though |
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Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:35 pm |
| lorimcp wrote: |
| Scally, have you tried the NuFace in the Scalp area like someone suggested? I am thinking that would be like a brow lift, which I am seriously considering. Hoping this will hold me off for a few years though |
Yep, but only moving the device into the scalp area, if that makes sense.
One thing I have noticed is that my brow is not furrowing as much when I krinkle my forehead (make sense?) - it's almost the same effect as a topical relaxer but they don't work well on me (most of them). So, I am pleased that I have an overall brighter, tighter feel to the skin now and can avoid the knife for awhile, too. |
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:57 am |
Well I did it today, ordered the NuFace from thewww.glow.com I've seen good results as far as skin tone etc with the BQ, so hope this will be as effective with firming
Ricky |
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:09 am |
Ricky,
may I ask ahy did you order it from glow?
I am lemming Nuface also. My concern is an ability to return if it would do nothing for me.
TIA,
Lucy. |
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:00 pm |
| Has anyone from the UK ordered one, and if so where from please? |
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:12 pm |
| lillilulu wrote: |
| Has anyone from the UK ordered one, and if so where from please? |
Well, I had a good google on it, and couldnt come up with anyone selling it in the UK /europe. |
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Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:35 am |
| From what I have read previously most UK buyers have got them from EDS. I will be buying mine from here, the price is good & the discount makes it better & the service is fantastic. I have never had a problem with EDS purchases. |
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Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:08 pm |
| Oh I wish mine would get here soon! |
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:53 am |
Scaly:
Where are your updated photos? I was also wondering if you have tried the dermatone. There is such a price difference and it looks almost the same.
It seems we use the same actives. Do you apply your DMAE before or after using the Nuface.
It would seem to be beneficial to use it ahead of time since they think the DMAE works by stimulating the contractraction of muscles.
I would also like to congratulate you on what you have accomplished. You look great!! I had seen you on another board about a year ago and your skin just glows now 
Patrod, |
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:14 am |
| patrod wrote: |
Scaly:
Where are your updated photos? I was also wondering if you have tried the dermatone. There is such a price difference and it looks almost the same.
It seems we use the same actives. Do you apply your DMAE before or after using the Nuface.
It would seem to be beneficial to use it ahead of time since they think the DMAE works by stimulating the contractraction of muscles.
I would also like to congratulate you on what you have accomplished. You look great!! I had seen you on another board about a year ago and your skin just glows now
Patrod, |
Thanks, Patrod! I embarked on a big routine change back in August and seemed to have been able to combine the best (for me) approach that covers many angles. I'll post updated photos today but I normally wait until there is significant change to do that. The Nuface is still performing very well and I did actually research the Dermaltone but the company is no longer in business - I do know they periodically sell units on eBay but I wasn't comfortable with the situation. That is why I opted for the Nuface.
Regarding DMAE, if I use it, it is toward the end of my routine. I am not so sure that it does much for me. Originally, I used it to try to achieve tightness around my cheeks, on my lips for plumpness (I am no using Lips2Kiss now and want to test for effectiveness of that product line only - DMAE does help for this, though) and I mainly use it under my jaw now. However, it never tightened that I could see though I did like how it helped plump my lips (weird that it does that, I know). I've used 3 and 4% amine. Perhaps, 6% is one I should investigate and probably will after I use up what I have.
In fact, I have tried relaxers such as PSF Browtox (liked the effect but it broke me out) and Relax-aline (didn't do anything). I have noticed that I am getting similar, if not much better, results w/the Nuface as I am unable to furrow my brow much AND with great effort on my part. I have to really try to do it now so that is a very big improvement for me. It shows that the muscles are indeed tightening.
One update is that I've switched back to using the included Nuface mist but I wash it off afterward. I was not satisfied w/the Aloe Vera gel as I thought it ultimately interfered with conductivity. The break out issue that I initially experienced, I believe, was due to my simultaneous increase in MSM to 4000 mg from 2000/day. It can cause toxin release on occasion when increased and seems to have worked itself out now.
I've devised a rather clever plan for getting my powdered supplements in each day that is so easy for me, it's silly. Before each morning, I'd have to haul out each container, measure out the amounts into a funnel, fiddle w/measuring spoons, etc. It was making me nuts. So, I found a vendor on eBay that sells science supplies. I ordered small dram (think they're 5) sized cylinders w/lids and put one days worth of my powders in each. Each morning, I plop one into my juice (I use an empty water bottle because I can continuously shake it to keep the powder mixed) add my silica gel and I'm off. It's a huge time saver and allows me to take my powdered supps religiously.
So, I'll post some pics later! |
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:17 am |
Hi again:
I just looked and I'm only taking 500 mg of MSM. It is one of those supplements for joint pain with Glucosamine. Where did you get all your info on supplements? I'm starting to think that is the reason for you success.
I've been using the 4% DMAE now for at least 13 weeks (that was the time Deb said it would take for accumlative results) and I still just notice a lift about 10 min after application. Which I also notice diminishes in a short time 
Where do you get your powders? What all do you take?
Maybe I'm too old to kick start. I'm 52 and have just noticed the sagging this year. My son even said something about a turkey neck. Which really scared me. What scares me more though is a facelift. I watch those programs on TV and am just terrified when I see the way they look after they come out of the operating room. It looks so painfull!
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:26 am |
| patrod wrote: |
Hi again:
I just looked and I'm only taking 500 mg of MSM. It is one of those supplements for joint pain with Glucosamine. Where did you get all your info on supplements? I'm starting to think that is the reason for you success.
I've been using the 4% DMAE now for at least 13 weeks (that was the time Deb said it would take for accumlative results) and I still just notice a lift about 10 min after application. Which I also notice diminishes in a short time
Where do you get your powders? What all do you take?
Maybe I'm too old to kick start. I'm 52 and have just noticed the sagging this year. My son even said something about a turkey neck. Which really scared me. What scares me more though is a facelift. I watch those programs on TV and am just terrified when I see the way they look after they come out of the operating room. It looks so painfull!
patrod |
I completely understand what you mean about cosmetic surgery for face lifts. It's also very hard to keep the work subtle - I hate the "pulled" look - it is scary!
Actually, I don't believe in being too old to change. I'm 40, for goodness sake, that's no spring chicken! You can obtain improvements, I'm proof! As for my supplements, I follow Deb's guideline that was on the Skincareboard and now on the Weight4Lose (can't remember the link but can look it up, if needed). I buy everything from Vitacost and do agree that this is the foundation for my improvements coupled with my skincare changes. I am very happy with my results so far and feel not only that I've tapped into the fountain of youth but actually improved the plumbing along the way. |
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:29 am |
I forgot to mention that I just started the Lip2Kiss system too. I have been a life long addict to chapstick. Its been 4 days now and my lips are really giving me a fit. I guess it would have been a good idea not to try this during the coldest time of the year. I am exfoliating at least twice a day because they are peeling so bad.
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:31 am |
| patrod wrote: |
I forgot to mention that I just started the Lip2Kiss system too. I have been a life long addict to chapstick. Its been 4 days now and my lips are really giving me a fit. I guess it would have been a good idea not to try this during the coldest time of the year. I am exfoliating at least twice a day because they are peeling so bad.
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Nah, it'd probably have been the same in summer. Just keep the products on. I, too, am getting very dry without them but we must trudge on! Mine are getting juicier/plumper and more color so I know it's working. |
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:59 am |
I just checked over at the skincare board and thank goodness someone had Deb's original list of supplements saved! I thought for sure when you mentioned your source, it was deleted.
So...I'm going to order the nu-face and get on line and start ordering supplements.
I think I might try and take some before and after pics. I just got a camera. Do you have to use photobucket to download a picture here? |
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Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:18 am |
| patrod wrote: |
I just checked over at the skincare board and thank goodness someone had Deb's original list of supplements saved! I thought for sure when you mentioned your source, it was deleted.
So...I'm going to order the nu-face and get on line and start ordering supplements.
I think I might try and take some before and after pics. I just got a camera. Do you have to use photobucket to download a picture here? |
Yeah, Molly and I worked together to piece it back together but Deb was a little piqued that we did so without asking. I understood her point but thought it was useful so we didn't do anything about it.
Definitely take before pics. It will greatly help you see the differences and is such a good tool for comparisons. I do use Photobucket for all of my pics. I add the IMG reference into my post from the link on PB. |
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