hexlene glycol and isohexdecane safe detergents to leave on?
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free skin care · Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:47 pm

I started a thread on waterless cleansers and received a ton of great responses. My last post, however, has not. Perhaps those who thought they could help thought they replied when I first posted and didn't bother to re-read any new posts. Anyways, I copy and pasted:

I have looked into various waterless cleansers that are available in the market and they all seem to have some sort of mild detergent in them (for obvious reasons). The percentage of these detergents is around or below 5%. Some of the detergents I have come across are hexylene glycol and isohexadecane. Are these detergents safe to leave on the skin, since I will not use water to rinse them off? I looked on several comedogenicity charts and they suggest hexylene glycol is moderately comdedogenic (2 out of 5) and isohexadecane is not listed. Like I said in my first post, I am concerned about my irritated, dry, acne-prone skin. I have attached the ingredients for LRP's waterless cleanser as well as Paula's Choice Makeup Remover. Paula says the MU remover can be applied either before or after cleansing. If I choose to use her MU remover, followed by a very mild toner like Marcelle's for dry skin, will my skin be prone to clogged pores? I have also attached the ingredients for Marcelle's toner.

Anyways, I appreciate any feedback and I am desperate to be proactive about fixing my skin. Thanks!

Paula's Choice MU Remover:
Water, Cyclomethicone,Isohexadecane,Butylene Glycol, Camellia Oleifera (Green Tea) Leaf Extract (antioxidant), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract (anti-irritant), Glycerin (water-binding agent), Glycyrrhetinic Acid (licorice-derived anti-irritant), Allantoin (anti-irritant), Bisabolol (antioxidant/soothing agent), Poloxamer 184 (surfactant polymer), Sodium Chloride (stabilizer), Benzalkonium Chloride (preservative), Disodium EDTA (stabilizer), Benzyl Alcohol (solvent/preservative), Phenoxyethanol (preservative

La Roche Posay Waterless Cleanser:
AQUA / WATER
HEXYLENE GLYCOL ≤5%
GLYCERIN
POLOXAMER 188
PEG-4
PEG-4 DILAURATE
PEG-4 LAURATE
ZINC PCA ≤0.2%
SODIUM CHLORIDE
SODIUM LACTATE
DISODIUM COCOAMPHODIACETATE ≤2%
DISODIUM EDTA
CITRIC ACID ≤1%
DIHYDROCHOLETH-30
IODOPROPYNYL BUTYLCARBAMATE ≤0.1%
POLYAMINOPROPYL BIGUANIDE ≤1%

Marcelle Toner for Dry Skin:
AQUA/WATER/EAU, PEG-8, PROPYLENE GLYCOL, GLYCERIN, TRIETHANOLAMINE, ALLANTOIN, DIAZOLIDINYL UREA, DISODIUM EDTA, Sodium Citrate, CITRIC ACID, Cucumber Extract, Poloxamer 188, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, PANTHENOL, (peach).

free skin care · Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:52 pm

It's definitely a personal choice, but I would not like leaving detergents on my skin, so I try to avoid rinse-off cleansers like what you mentioned. I think I might have mentioned it before, but I LOVE Zenbiotic's Rinseless Cleanser. I first started using it in place of a regular cleanser because a cold snap had just hit Cleveland and my skin got SO red and irritated (not to mention my acne got worse) that I had stop washing my face with a traditional cleanser twice a day. Now it's not so cold but I'm still using this in the mornings because my skin loves it and I haven't broken out at all. The ingredients are all natural, and I use it every morning and it leaves my skin clean and soft with no residue. HTH!

free skin care · Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:05 pm

I use hexalene glycol as a solvent in my C+E+F formulation. I don't have a problem with it. I use prescription retinoids so my skin in normally irritated and sensitive.

free skin care · Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:46 am

Hi,

I'm just wondering why you don't want to use water on your face? I only wash my face these days with a light cleanser and avene (I spray, cleanse, spray again, gently wipe with a cotton pad, repeat the spray, wipe, and spray again--leaving my skin to dry naturally). Perhaps this was addresses in your other thread, but I find that enzymatic cleansers are the best for gently removing impurities from the skin. Gentle cleansing and then a nice clarifying peel once or twice per week should really help your skin...

I wouldn't put those detergents near my face, let alone let them sit there. Especially if you have irritation-prone skin!

--avalange

free skin care · Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:21 pm

Thanks for the replies. Seems like most of the people here don't like waterless cleansers. The reason I wanted to try a waterless cleanser was because I think the hardwater I use is causing a lot of dehydration and dryness. I thought avoiding water (atleaast once out of the two times I wash my face) would help with the dryness.

Avanlange: which light cleanser do you use? As for the Avene, do you mean the Avene spring water spray? Do you find that simply spraying and wiping is sufficient to take off all your makeup and rinse away the cleanser?

Thanks everyone!

free skin care · Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:50 pm

LL wrote:

Thanks for the replies. Seems like most of the people here don't like waterless cleansers. The reason I wanted to try a waterless cleanser was because I think the hardwater I use is causing a lot of dehydration and dryness. I thought avoiding water (atleaast once out of the two times I wash my face) would help with the dryness.

Avanlange: which light cleanser do you use? As for the Avene, do you mean the Avene spring water spray? Do you find that simply spraying and wiping is sufficient to take off all your makeup and rinse away the cleanser?

LL--did you read the hard water thread? I had a similar crisis, replete with breakouts, more fine lines than I've ever had before, general feeling that both my skin and hair were 'stripped.' that's why i began to use the avene spring water to clean my face. I also invested in a vitamin c water filter for the shower (www.roninonline.com), which is a very inexpensive and wonderful solution to the problem. I do think the avene + cleanser with a cotton pad is enough to cleanse the face. I like the fact that I have control over where the cleansing is, at least more so than rinsing my face.

So, to recapitulate, here is what I do:
1. spray face and neck with avene
2. Apply cleanser (I use Osea's creamy cleanser--it removes makeup and dirt and is completely soft and gentle; leaves my skin glowy and healthy feeling; sometimes when i want a more intense cleansing experience I use sanoflore's foaming face wash)
2. spray avene again
4. wipe gently, in outward motions, with a high quality cotton pad
5. spray again
6. wipe again
7. spray again, leave mineral water on the skin until it dries...

then i follow with my vitamin c in the morning, or my retinol at night...

I hope that helps. I completely understand your plight. You can use any old mineral water, including distilled water; I just happen to be in france and avene is really inexpensive here. I would use arrowhead or evian if I was in the states.

I've notices a VAST improvement in my skin since having taken these simple measures. I don't think I'll go back to the regular cleansing method. My skin feels a lot cleaner this way (the cotton pads always yield dirt!)

Also, for what it is worth--I mistakenly did not order my shower filter from ronin online, but from another source, selling a similar product, that i believe to be inferior. The onyl great thing about it is that it is a vitamin c filter that is IN the showerhead itself, so you can actually bring it with you wherever you go, on vacation, etc. I don't think it works as well as the filter, and it is about twice as expensive. You can compare the one I mentioned above with "vitadouche."

The principle behind the vitamin c is that is neutralizes chemicals in the water, leaving only the good minerals behind. It's the same type of filtration system they use in hospitals, so it's not just a vitamin c gimmick.

--avalange

Thanks everyone!

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