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Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:17 am  |
I fought my hyperpigmentation with lasers and hydroquinone. It was complete waste of money. So I started to take MSM. I'm taking it for few months already and I noticed that melasma on the sides of my face become uneven - I see pigmented spot(3 by 10 cm aproximately) is broken , white skin appears in spots.
My nails and hair are stronger too. But I cannot confirm that it's from MSM, I also take Biotin, B6 and Zinc. |
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41 yo, fair skinned blonde, Baby Q, Retin A, CP, Flex Effect |
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Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:44 pm |
MSM is used by many on the forum and other forums completely endorse it (Flex Effect.com for one). I am a fan of MSM - take it in powdered form - approximately a teaspoon a day (you must build to this amount). It is also advisable that you take Vit C in a ratio of 1:2 approximately. Meaning 4000 mg MSM/2000 mg C. they work synergistically to create collagen and laying down new foundation. It takes a while to see an effect so patience is necessary. Skin needs to turnover and this will take time. I am into about a year or so of use and would not ever want to stop using this. My hair is so much better as is the integrity of my skin.
MSM is one of my favorite supplements and I would give up so many others before I would ever give this up.
Read away. You will learn lots here on EDS.
Sis..... |
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:42 am |
| Hi, thanks for the reply. Can anyone tell me where I can purchase it? I checked our local WalMart and they did not have it. Is there any one brand that is better than another? My daughter who is 21 would probably benefit, she is always complaining about her hair being so thin and always falling out. Me, I want if for the collagen. You said you gradually work your way up to a certain amount. How much do you start out with? Or is that a personal choice on weather you get an upset stomach? I'm from eastern Pennsylvania. We do have a GNC store at the mall and a store called Peace Frog which sells all sorts of vitamins and things like that. |
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:29 am |
A great site with GREAT prices to buy many supplements is vitacost.com. the msm I use is powdered from Source Naturals. I also get ascorbyl palmitate there (that is the tech name for vit C ester - do not confuse this with Ester C... They are not the same)...
I buy lots of my vitamins from them.
Another good source is MSM_MSM.com (I think that's it) |
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:07 pm |
| sister sweets wrote: |
| MSM is used by many on the forum and other forums completely endorse it (Flex Effect.com for one). I am a fan of MSM - take it in powdered form - approximately a teaspoon a day (you must build to this amount). It is also advisable that you take Vit C in a ratio of 1:2 approximately. Meaning 4000 mg MSM/2000 mg C. they work synergistically to create collagen and laying down new foundation. |
sister sweets, should i take vitamin C and MSM together? I drink lemon juice every morning (that's my vitamin C for the day  ) and then I take 6-8 1000 mg MSM tablets during the day (usually 2 at once).
TIA |
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41 yo, fair skinned blonde, Baby Q, Retin A, CP, Flex Effect |
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Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:17 pm |
I can tell the difference in my fingernail growth especially when I keep up with MSM and VitC.
Thanks for the reminder and the tip about Biotin,zinc & B6.
I get mine also from Vitacost.com.
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Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:22 am |
| TanyaB wrote: |
| sister sweets wrote: |
| MSM is used by many on the forum and other forums completely endorse it (Flex Effect.com for one). I am a fan of MSM - take it in powdered form - approximately a teaspoon a day (you must build to this amount). It is also advisable that you take Vit C in a ratio of 1:2 approximately. Meaning 4000 mg MSM/2000 mg C. they work synergistically to create collagen and laying down new foundation. |
sister sweets, should i take vitamin C and MSM together? I drink lemon juice every morning (that's my vitamin C for the day ) and then I take 6-8 1000 mg MSM tablets during the day (usually 2 at once).
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Hi Tanya - I would take at least another 1000mg C later in the day. You are taking a lot of MSM. And it is best to distribute your intake over a days time with the C also.
the lemon water is great detox in the am but is water soluble and will be used and done. I wouldn't expect it would be sustain all day for all of the MSM intake. |
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Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:11 pm |
| sister sweets wrote: |
| You are taking a lot of MSM. |
Ya, I have huge melasma spots on my face( don't know if it's due to my second pregnancy 4 years ago or due to my baking on the sun in my teen years) 
| sister sweets wrote: |
| And it is best to distribute your intake over a days time with the C also. |
Does it mean that for each 1000 mg MSM I should take 2000 mg vitamin C? I read that overdose of vitamin C is dangerous. I'm confused 
TIA |
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41 yo, fair skinned blonde, Baby Q, Retin A, CP, Flex Effect |
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:47 am |
MSM hasn't helped me with melasma or hyperpigmentation at all! but it has helped strengthen my muscular skeletal system, and I believe has contributed to nail and hair growth. It is a supplement that delivers! It should be taken in divided doses, with food, and Vit C. If you're taking too much, you will get gas-y  I take it with my glucosamine/chondroitan supplement. |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:52 am |
| TanyaB wrote: |
| sister sweets wrote: |
| You are taking a lot of MSM. |
Ya, I have huge melasma spots on my face( don't know if it's due to my second pregnancy 4 years ago or due to my baking on the sun in my teen years)
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| And it is best to distribute your intake over a days time with the C also. |
Does it mean that for each 1000 mg MSM I should take 2000 mg vitamin C? I read that overdose of vitamin C is dangerous. I'm confused
TIA |
The opposite: For 2000mg of MSM - 1000mg of C. this is what I've read on many sites. Loren Pickart recommends this I think. Also recommended on Flexeffect as well as on EDS from various sources. I probably take 1000-1500mg C to 4000mg MSM... The rest of my C I get from food sources: fruits, veggies and my beloved lemon water.
Mountain girl - how much MSM do you take? I know it has helped my joints also. My skin is stronger - as we all say here though - who knows? We all do so m any things that contribute to that, don't we? |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:44 pm |
I started taking MSM in pill form (1000 mg each, four or five a day) a few months ago and noticed a definite difference in my hair, especially at my hairline. I thought that at 49, my normally thick hair (fine and wavy/curly, but lots of it) had been thinning out a bit. My hairdresser said it wasn't, but I decided to give MSM a try anyway. And the other benefits of MSM (skin, tissues in general) certainly couldn't hurt, right? Sure enough, I noticed short hairs growing in at my hairline after four weeks. If you've ever had slight hair loss after childbirth and then had regrowth several months later, you know what I'm talking about and this was just the same. Yay! I thought my skin was looking better and brighter, too. I have no hyperpigmentation problems so can't say that MSM helped me that way.
Summer got hectic and I ran out of MSM a month ago. But I've just reordered some and got it in powder form this time. I got tired of those big pills - very hard for me to swallow.
I'm a believer in MSM, thanks to this forum! |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:34 pm |
Gosh, I'm amazed people can take such large amounts of MSM... even taking 1,000mg at once really upsets my stomach, and I thought I was one of those people who can eat anything!
Did you all build up from a lower dose, or were you able to tolerate 1,000mg straight away?
Thanks |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:54 pm |
Just an FYI; If you have the capsule variety without any fillers, you can dissolve one in a TBS of distilled water and add it to any cream, serum or moisturizer.....
It's awesome! |
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♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:22 pm |
| Ugh, I have only ever had minor pigmentation on my upper cheek until last week when I was out in the sun all afternoon and now have a dark area above my lips. It looks terrible I have never worn sunscreen and never had an issue until last week. I remembered reading a while ago about MSM helping with pigmenation I actually just bought the only bottle of MSM that I could find in town but it says it's for joint pain and now I'm wondering if this is OK for what I need it for? I do plan on reading the entire MSM thread, but until then is this the right stuff? The brand name is webber naturals, it's 1000 mg MSM tablets and the ingredients are microcrystalline cellulose, silicon dioxide and vegetable grade magnesium stearate (lubricant). Is that fillers? Sorry I'm a bit of a dunce when it comes to this kind of thing. |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:32 pm |
Diana, I believe they 'are' fillers.. Next time look for a bottle that states; "No excipients or fillers". I highly recommend the following;
http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=143095&catid=28464
Just an FYI; a guaranteed way to see if your MSM capsules are filler 'free' is to open one into a half glass of water. If it sinks and fully dissolves in less than 10 seconds, it's a good bet, it is without fillers..
HTH! |
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♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:16 pm |
| Thanks Kassy. It's so frustrating. Every site I've seen posted so far for buying MSM does not ship to Canada. Off to do a google search I guess. |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:18 pm |
| otherloulou wrote: |
Did you all build up from a lower dose, or were you able to tolerate 1,000mg straight away?
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I'm taking MSM by Webber Natural. each tablet is 1,000 mG. I started from 1 tablet per day and increased number to 6 (sometimes eight) over a month or so. I added extra pill every week.
ya, I agree - the tablets are huge, gross and hard to swallow. But I'm inspired by the result of others and of myself now. Today I added vitamin C tablets, which are huge (even though only 500 mG each) and hard to swallow too.
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41 yo, fair skinned blonde, Baby Q, Retin A, CP, Flex Effect |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:21 pm |
| Diana P wrote: |
| Thanks Kassy. It's so frustrating. Every site I've seen posted so far for buying MSM does not ship to Canada. Off to do a google search I guess. |
I bought mine in Shoppers Drug Mart. As I mentioned in my previous post - it's by Webber Natural. And it called "MSM". I used to buy another brand and they state full name (sorry can't repeat it now ) and MSM mentioned below. Also I 've seen it in Costco. |
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41 yo, fair skinned blonde, Baby Q, Retin A, CP, Flex Effect |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:31 pm |
| TanyaB wrote: |
| Diana P wrote: |
| Thanks Kassy. It's so frustrating. Every site I've seen posted so far for buying MSM does not ship to Canada. Off to do a google search I guess. |
I bought mine in Shoppers Drug Mart. As I mentioned in my previous post - it's by Webber Natural. And it called "MSM". I used to buy another brand and they state full name (sorry can't repeat it now ) and MSM mentioned below. Also I 've seen it in Costco. |
OK so that sounds like the same one I am using. It was the only kind they have in our local pharmacy. I think I am still going to try and find one that doesn't have fillers in it. |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:47 pm |
| Diana P wrote: |
| I think I am still going to try and find one that doesn't have fillers in it. |
Don't remember where I read it (maybe in original MSM topic), but pure MSM should have "OptiMSM" sign (blue background, white font, shape of tablet) - you will find it on the package.
HTH |
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41 yo, fair skinned blonde, Baby Q, Retin A, CP, Flex Effect |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:55 pm |
| TanyaB wrote: |
| Diana P wrote: |
| I think I am still going to try and find one that doesn't have fillers in it. |
Don't remember where I read it (maybe in original MSM topic), but pure MSM should have "OptiMSM" sign (blue background, white font, shape of tablet) - you will find it on the package.
HTH |
That's what mine say's. The brand I have is "Natures Way". Same one as the link I provided above... Cheap too! 200 capsules for $14.99 |
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♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:02 pm |
Thought I'd chime in...I take MSM, but in powder form. I buy it from vitacost.com, and it's the Linguisil processed Pure MSM powder. It's relatively cheap considering you can get a pretty big bottle of this stuff, but I'm sure you can find cheaper on the web.
Diane~Just make sure it says it's pure like everyone on here is saying. I remember I took an MSM capsule from Whole Foods that had some fillers in it, and I felt nauseous. I don't know if that's the case for everyone, but try to avoid those fillers! Take care and good luck with your MSM hunt! |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:02 pm |
| Kassy_A wrote: |
Just an FYI; If you have the capsule variety without any fillers, you can dissolve one in a TBS of distilled water and add it to any cream, serum or moisturizer.....
It's awesome! |
May have to get some capsules just to give it a try. Thanks!!!!!<a |
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Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:05 pm |
| I've been using MSM for 3 months now and my skin has less acne especially that time of the month. Also, my hair and nails grow like crazy! Especially my toe nails! |
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