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free skin care · Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:16 am

I think I have read most of the threads about which device is best for this and that. I know they all have there benefits. I was wondering if anyone had some tangible results from skin tightening from any of the above gadgets, or anything else. I currently have a led, and I do some facial exercises, massage. I need to tighten especially the eye area above my eyes, not to mention n/ls, etc. I havn't seen any before and after pictures that address the upper eye area. Can anyone help? Thanks so much, Lynn

free skin care · Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:16 pm

I've used Nuface since October and just started using Tua Viso most days and Nuface once or twice a week. I just added a little Neutrogena copper peptide-- probably there is not enough in it to make any difference-- all of the sudden I think nothing is working for me, so tonight I decided to go back on my birth control to put some estrogen back in to my skin. I don't know honestly!! I'd hold off on the Nuface. It's so expensive & you're not likely to be really wowed.

Tua Viso I had and have high hopes for. I should have a better sense of whether I like it in the next month or so. I thought I did initially, and probably I still do. I've used it two weeks. So far it seems pull the face up ever so slightly. My cheeks seem a little more plump right after using it, but otherwise I can't tell. The changes are very subtle; it could be weeks. Based on how my face FEELS though I am kind of impressed.

free skin care · Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:01 am

Thanks Gretchen - I just ordered a tua viso from Nanci @NCN. I pm'd DiPhx because she seemed to really like hers from various threads. She was very convincing too. I am excited to try it. I have been doing facial exercises (lulu), but that's a long go. I'm hoping for quicker improvement with especially the eye area and n/ls. Please let me know of your progress - as I will too. Lynn

free skin care · Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:10 pm

I've been using Tua Viso now three weeks and totally in awe, and I truly mean that, about what that gadget does. It is mind boggling. Shock

I had already been microcurrenting my face for about 5 months with the Nuface before I started using it and did not think it would make much difference. Oh my god, I can't believe it. The Tua Viso has made a huge difference in my cheek and lip area; both seem slightly more defined, pillowy and filled out. I've gotten used to feeling totally invisible in public the last few years; the last ten days I've noticed people actually looking at my face trying to figure out what the deal is. I don't feel so old and worn out looking. Nuface is helpful, but Tua Viso is way beyond it. It's like my whole face is lifted up. It is one gadget I can easily see myself using the rest of my life, it is that good.

free skin care · Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:48 pm

That awesome Gretchen - so glad to hear that it's working for you. I received mine on Tuesday and have been using it twice a day hoping for speedy results. Did you ever doubt that you were putting the probes in the wrong areas - For instance, when I do the smile exercises, the contraction makes my n/ls get worse during the exercise. On the other hand, my eye area is already lifting which is utterly amazing as I have tried every known cream to help and nothing has worked, even my led didn't help. Thanks for sharing your success! Lynn

free skin care · Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:01 pm

lynnn wrote:

That awesome Gretchen - so glad to hear that it's working for you. I received mine on Tuesday and have been using it twice a day hoping for speedy results. Did you ever doubt that you were putting the probes in the wrong areas - For instance, when I do the smile exercises, the contraction makes my n/ls get worse during the exercise. On the other hand, my eye area is already lifting which is utterly amazing as I have tried every known cream to help and nothing has worked, even my led didn't help. Thanks for sharing your success! Lynn

No for some reason I feel like I've really got all the right placements. The hardest one is the temple eyebrow one. I have not noticed my n/l lines getting worse. I don't use a mirror, I go with the if it feels like the contraction is correct. I am also using the lower settings for intensity; 5 is the highest I set it on, except for the lip exercise, which is totally the bomb. Then I go up to 6. I have never used any beauty product that had this effect on me.
The way it lifts the eyelid up and the eyebrow is pretty amazing. Now I actually have eyelid to put eyeshadow on. I started to really hate my whole eye area the last two years or so and that has turned around completely too. It's easily the best $200 I ever spent on anything.

free skin care · Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:14 am

Gretchen & Lynn - I am copying & pasting my thoughts on the Tua Viso, which I had entered on another thread:

I have been watching this tread to see what people make of the new Trend. I have the Tua Viso & find it does work when I use it! I bought my first one back in about 2005, did everything to the letter of the instructions for all the necessary months. It was time consuming.
I drifted away from it & then took it up again as my face seemed to have fallen, however, & this is the crafty bit, I ordered a second Tua Viso. Working on completely opposing areas of each side of my face I can zip through a session, I do two minutes on all areas except the under eye where I do three minutes.
Now, I know this idea of 2 Visos is not suggested by the Tua Viso site, but it works for me. After another lapse, which I think occurs because I get my face looking reasonable & get lulled into a false sense of security, then I let the regular use of Viso slide. I am back using them again, & yet again, am reminded I must not stop using this item, because it gives results. My eye bags, which I had been feeling very down about, have yet again gone; my whole face is lifted & feels fresh & youthful, although this perkiness sinks a bit by bedtime at the mo, returning in the morning when I use Viso again. I have been back using it for only two weeks now & am really pleased; I also know that longer term results will return with prolonged use, so I expect the perkiness to stay longer then. I highly recommend using 2 Tua Viso at the same time. My face feels so fresh & recharged after a session.

I would not dream of travelling without them either. I hate hot stuffy air conditioned hotel rooms & always wake up puffed up. At home we sleep in an unheated room, usually with the window open. I know that by using my Tua’s I will look great at breakfast & for the rest of the day. Two years ago at a conference 2 different people asked me at breakfast how I managed to look so good first thing. We had all been up late the night before chatting & drinking, & I must say, most did look puffed up with under eye baggage, and these comments certainly confirmed my own thoughts about Tua Viso.

So for me, the original Tua Viso is a super gadget, but I do have to remember use it! I will continue to watch this thread & see what you all make of the Trend before I consider swapping. Oh & a by product of the Viso is the glowing skin with the increased blood flow.

Marber 47, good to hear of someone who is pleased with the TT.

Regarding the TV,there is now a comprehensive DVD available, on the correct placement of it. I think this may be included with new Tua Visos, but not sure . I bought it separately & it really helped me use the TV correctly , the little instruction booklet really was fairly useless for placement, as it was one dimensional. I think the DVD content is what Tina Richards includes in her classes, but the cost of me getting from Scotland to London & staying over, plus the class cost was just a non-starter, so I am glad this DVD has been produced.

I had been doing several of the positionings quite wrong , for a number of years ! I feel, the correct placement has made quite a difference to my results. So, to any other TV users who do not have the DVD, may I suggest you purchase.

Gretchen - you say you are peri-menopausal, I can highly recommend natural oestrogen cream. I went through an early menopause, & have used this since my early forties, now I am 52.

free skin care · Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:49 pm

Hi Cooking Katy - thanks for your post. I have been using the Tsa Viso for about 3 weeks. I have, in the last week seen quite a substantial improvement in my eyes. I was suffering from drooping upper lids so much so that you could not see my lower eyelid. I have a problem getting the proper muscle to contract for the exercise that is near the temple and touching the ear - I find it doesn't lift my eyebrow as seen in the video. Also, any of the exercises that involve my deep n/l's seem to make them worse - now, they're not worse, but I don't think they're any better - I'm wondering if I should change the positioning or just not do them and use only the cheek building exercises. Anyway, all and all, it is an incredible device and I am very happy w/it. My face overall is less saggy. Lynn

free skin care · Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:25 am

Lynn I find I can give the eyebrow area 2 lifts with the two eye positionings (once when doing the temple & a second when doing below eye).

The first is when you do the temple placement you mention. I position the lower sponge on almost the end of my eyebrow with the upper sponge on the temple almost vertically above.This needs to be tweaked until there is as strong lift at the eyebrow right in at the nose bridge (inner end).

When you do the lower eye, position the sponges well down the cheek. I have one sponge in near the outer edge of my nostril, while the outer sponge is angled up above this somewhat, on my cheek bone, below the outer eye corner. This positioning not only lifts the under eye strongly up to the eyelash line but also cause my outer eyebrow ends to arch up high giving a strong lift.

I hope you can make sense of this description. Here is pic of my eyebrows, not a detailed pic, it was taken in too strong a light.

http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx334/cicooking/Face19march2010006edited.jpg

free skin care · Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:07 am

Lynn, I forgot to mention, with regard to the N/Ls, it is important that your nose pulls over to the side you are working on, this apparently works the muscle which lifts the N/L back to where it once was Laughing

It means you have positioned the 2 sponges on the correct spots of your cheek for that exercise.

free skin care · Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:26 am

Thanks Cooking Katy - I'll pay more attention to what is moving when I do the temple exercise. Sometimes, I know it's right, but other times it's hard to get the right positioning. It sounds like your placement is quite different from the video - I will definitely try that - that may be my problem, because I am trying to position the same as the model, but my face is different. Your eye area looks fantastic!! You don't have any before pictures do you - I'm sure everyone here would love to see such success! I'll keep you posted. Thanks again, Lynn

free skin care · Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:41 pm

Wow your eyebrows look great CookingKaty. I am pretty sure I have the placements correct but now having read your description I wonder. Question

I'm having the hardest time removing and replacing the bayonets and sponges. I almost had a total fit last week. Can anyone tell me if there is some special technique that I am not getting? I really appreciate it.

free skin care · Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:44 am

Hi Lynn & Gretchen,

here is a link to the additional instructional DVD for placement of the sponges.

http://www.tinarichards.com/products/shopping_basket/

It is not the one that used to come in the box with the Tua Viso, although it may now for all I know. It is much more in depth & showed me I had been placing some of the positionings wrongly for a number of years Shock

I think the booklet being one dimensional is very confusing, especially if you have a big face as I do Laughing

plenty of space to go wrong Laughing

Gretchen, with regard to the sponges wet them first before you shape them into the cup when you replace them. Also I squirt water into them in the cup before screwing in the bayonet even if it is not a new set & they are sitting in the cup from the day before's use, this allows some play in the sponge to squeeze & screw in.

The bayonets can be confusing, even after all this time I still occasionally fight for a bit and discover I am actually turning them in the wrong direction Rolling Eyes

Why I get muddled with undo or tighten I do not know.

I think it is important to always watch in a mirror where you placement is & what muscle is moving. I could never watch TV for example & do treatment, I find I do concentrate quite hard on what is being moved.

Finally, to get that lift of the outer eyebrow edge when doing the under eye move, to clarify, I was doing the FlexEffect exercises & one of them made the eyebrow do this arch, so i thought if i explained that, it would show you what you were trying to achieve. Put your ring and middle finger on the bridge of your nose, pull down then raise you eyebrow as hard as possible. This should hold the eyebrow down at the bridge of the nose end, but give a good arch out at the eyebrow end, this is the pull I get when doing the under eye move, the outer sponge on the cheek bone needs to be a bit higher than the one in at my nose wing to achieve this.

free skin care · Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:19 am

Thanks again for all of your expertise CK. I tried the temple lift and it worked great - but I seem to be able to lift my inner eyebrow alot easier than the out one. I tried the cheek exercise and I couldn't move the outer eyebrow. It closes my eye and pulls up my lower eye area.

With respect to the n/ls - mine are pretty prominent and I cannot do the exercise without them creasing. My outer nose area moves out, but my n/l are creased as well.

Thanks again for your help. Lynn

free skin care · Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:10 am

Lynn, the temple lift SHOULD only lift the inner edge of the eyebrow, so you got that one right

Keep experimenting with the lower eye move, maybe you have the power level switched up too high, you should not find your eye locks shut. Tina is quite specific about this on the advanced DVD.

free skin care · Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:59 pm

I have a question about recharging the 9 volt battery. I realize this has more to do with what brand battery you use, but in general how long should it take to recharge the battery and how long does a rechargeable battery last? I've been recharging the one I got with the unit itself for almost 2 months. Today it's been recharging 5 hours and still is not recharged. Should I throw it out and buy a new one?

free skin care · Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:17 pm

Much excitement! I got a Tua Viso second-hand on ebay (I can't bring myself to buy gadgets full price for fear they'll turn out to be duds).

I'm going to continue Ageless and use this alongside my ever-growing arsenal, though I enjoy using them all, even the AALS which takes 1 hour+!

My first experience of microcurrent was not good (Cleo Q) so I'm unsure, but we shall see!

Now I have to study the Tua Viso thread carefully. Next to tick off my lemming list is the Safetox! (Tried bidding for the Safetox yesterday, second-hand of course, my computer crashed as the bidding was ending..I emailed the seller and they put the price up when they relisted Sad

!)

I love waiting for gadgets to arrive, though the fantasy is sometimes better than the reality, such is life Laughing

Dumb question time: how do the electrical impulses between the Safetox and TV differ? I know both activate the underlying muscles somehow.

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