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Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:06 pm      Reply with quote
I got excited finally about BB creams thinking that they are the answer to my aging skin. But on doing the research on them, formula-wise they are nothing too different or new. Some people claim they are nothing more than tinted moisutizers but I think they bridge the gap between TM and full coverage foundation.

I think we already have BB creams in the North American market if you just look at products formula-wise. Estee Lauder, Clinique, Lancome, Maybelline and MAC have all put out their versions of BB cream in the Asian market in the past few months. I wonder if they are new formulas or just rebranded products for those markets.

I suspect Clinique's Cityblock SPF 25 is pretty well a BB cream if you just look at the formula and test it for the viscousity.

So does any think they have encountered it already from one brand to another? It would ease the lemming for something hard to find in person and they have ingredient lists in English.
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I have to admit that I had to Google BB Creams because I had absolutely no idea what they were. For others who may have been living under a rock like me - this is from Wikipedia:

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BB cream, also known as Blemish Balm or Blemish Base, is a cosmetic item sold in Korea.[citation needed]

It was initially used by dermatologists to help laser surgery patients protect, soothe and refine highly sensitive skin while providing light coverage for post-laser scars, acne and other blemishes.

Originally formulated in Germany, BB cream has in recent years gained a huge following for its skin-regenerating properties and is now also widely used in Asia to provide natural-looking skin coverage. Korean celebrities and cosmetic companies were the first to discover BB cream, and it's popularity has now spread from Korea to Japan and South East Asia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BB_cream

So my question is: What skin-regenerating properties do these creams contain?

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I have come across quite a lot of posts both here and on other forums also Keliu, and I have yet to figure out what is anti-aging in a BB cream? Most of what I read says they are very limited in color selection, some like them for acne prone skin and others say they cause breakouts???
I also find many are Korean or Japanese without any English ingredient listings, so not really sure what they contain that's anti-aging.

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Keliu wrote:
I have to admit that I had to Google BB Creams because I had absolutely no idea what they were. For others who may have been living under a rock like me - this is from Wikipedia:

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BB cream, also known as Blemish Balm or Blemish Base, is a cosmetic item sold in Korea.[citation needed]

It was initially used by dermatologists to help laser surgery patients protect, soothe and refine highly sensitive skin while providing light coverage for post-laser scars, acne and other blemishes.

Originally formulated in Germany, BB cream has in recent years gained a huge following for its skin-regenerating properties and is now also widely used in Asia to provide natural-looking skin coverage. Korean celebrities and cosmetic companies were the first to discover BB cream, and it's popularity has now spread from Korea to Japan and South East Asia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BB_cream

So my question is: What skin-regenerating properties do these creams contain?


This thread discusses some of the various BB Creams and shares a few ingredient listings. There are also a couple of links to blogs (on the first few pages) with packaging photos that include ingredient listings as well as bb cream comparisons and reviews: Smile

BB Cream
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=32513
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I have come across quite a lot of posts both here and on other forums also Keliu, and I have yet to figure out what is anti-aging in a BB cream? Most of what I read says they are very limited in color selection, some like them for acne prone skin and others say they cause breakouts???
I also find many are Korean or Japanese without any English ingredient listings, so not really sure what they contain that's anti-aging.


I think the high SPF many of them have alone is considered antiaging and then they use ingredients like caviar, gold, pearl, vitamins, plant extracts (that are emollient but still antioxidants like barley) plus if you look at the ladies that do use them well how many don't look their age? I'm not talking about actresses either though some older Asian actresses look way more natural than Hollywood ones.

take a look at these sites for some English info: www.sasa.com www.becleo.com www.yesstyle.com

And for some reason Omar Sharif even has a line of BB creams! If it's THE Omar Sharif!
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I emailed Clinique to see what the equivilant to BB creams were in North American and just as I feared they sort of misunderstood my question. Maybe I got to go to a counter. The form requires that I state my skin type ie. Type 1, dryness, antiaging, dullness

And I said I thought it might be Perfectly Real, Supermoisture, Redness Solution or Even Better foundations that were the closest to BB cream and the expert said that if I meant BLEMISH BALM (I only said BB cream) it would be the Acne Solutions Liquid Makeup and to set it with Stay Matte powder to absorb oil!

Sigh, this is why people switched to mineral and BB cream, lack of foresight!
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Keliu wrote:
I have to admit that I had to Google BB Creams because I had absolutely no idea what they were. For others who may have been living under a rock like me - this is from Wikipedia:

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BB cream, also known as Blemish Balm or Blemish Base, is a cosmetic item sold in Korea.[citation needed]

It was initially used by dermatologists to help laser surgery patients protect, soothe and refine highly sensitive skin while providing light coverage for post-laser scars, acne and other blemishes.

Originally formulated in Germany, BB cream has in recent years gained a huge following for its skin-regenerating properties and is now also widely used in Asia to provide natural-looking skin coverage. Korean celebrities and cosmetic companies were the first to discover BB cream, and it's popularity has now spread from Korea to Japan and South East Asia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BB_cream

So my question is: What skin-regenerating properties do these creams contain?


This thread discusses some of the various BB Creams and shares a few ingredient listings. There are also a couple of links to blogs (on the first few pages) with packaging photos that include ingredient listings as well as bb cream comparisons and reviews: Smile

BB Cream
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=32513


Thanks, I already saw that! That was an useful thread.
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Thanks for the link Havana - I'm out of touch aren't I!

I thought it was interesting that it was initially developed to use after a laser treatment, so it must have some healing ingredients. Anyway, in response to Sakura's original question, I really don't know which US products would be the same as a BB Cream. But I use the Sheer Mineral Tint from NCN Proskincare. It does have some nice ingredients also an SPF of 20 and provides a light, but adequate, dewy coverage.

http://www.ncnproskincare.com/sun-protection/sheer-tint-mineral-makeup-spf-20.html

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Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:05 am      Reply with quote
I do think that Clinique class there Sheer City Block SPF 25 and there Super City Block SPF 30 as BB creams, however I wasn't entirely sure what a BB cream was until a few years ago and I'm still not 100% sure!! I think I was a little out of touch, anyway quite a few of the Asian and Japanese websites promote BB creams which to me just means a tinted moisturiser with sun protect, however I could be wrong?? Smile
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I do think that Clinique class there Sheer City Block SPF 25 and there Super City Block SPF 30 as BB creams, however I wasn't entirely sure what a BB cream was until a few years ago and I'm still not 100% sure!! I think I was a little out of touch, anyway quite a few of the Asian and Japanese websites promote BB creams which to me just means a tinted moisturiser with sun protect, however I could be wrong?? Smile


Not sure, the seem to be in their own class of skin care-cosmetics?

BB Cream, aka Blemish Balm is an innovative multifunctional product category that blends skincare
and cosmetic using botanical ingredients. It started off as a soothing treatment balm that dermatologists
and surgeons used on patients who underwent laser skin treatments. It was used to help shield and
protect as well as regenerate delicate skin. Korean celebrities soon noticed and acted on this cream
sparking a huge craze in Korea, due to its excellent results. The craze has grown exponentially
into over 10 countries and now in North America.

What is it? BB cream moisturizes, covers up naturally while rejuvenating skin underneath, as well as
a sun protectant. Some have whitening and wrinkle repair as well as a glossy shimmer. The colour
seeps into the skin naturally that it hardly seems like one has makeup on (unlike foundations) yet sill
creating a flawless look. This is why it usually comes in one colour (the more you rub, the more it ‘seeps’
into the skin). It is also a natural moisturizer and makes the skin feel dewy and not oily. BB Creams are
made from high grade nutrition with anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-oxidating properties that are
healthy for the skin. The ingredients vary in different types of BB creams but BRTC’s bb creams have
many plant extracts and derivatives. Some of the ingredients used in BRTC BB creams include
Allantoin,
green tea, tea tree oil, Portulaca Oleracea, grapefruit and special indian bark.

BRTC is an original BB Cream brand that has grown in all major Asian countries. It is
endorsed by
doctors, dermatologists, popstars and other celebrities. BRTC is regarded as one of the highest grade
of BB Creams and is regarded as a medical brand and sold to many hospitals, derm spas and
retail locations. BRTC products start with a strong R&D process and products are derived from a
combination of 9 different patents to solve specific skin problems. BRTC undergoes a rigorous safety,
heavy metals and 3rd party efficacy tests to ensure its suitability for all skin types focusing on sensitive
skin. BRTC is now compliant with FDA and suitable to the local market.

http://www.brtcstore.com/bb-cream.html

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Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:33 pm      Reply with quote
Anti-aging BB creams contain various ingredients such as adenosine, EGF, etc

for example, the list of ingredients for an anti-aging BB cream :

http://www.skinceramic.com/ingredients/ingredients01.htm
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Anti-aging BB creams contain various ingredients such as adenosine, EGF, etc

for example, the list of ingredients for an anti-aging BB cream :

http://www.skinceramic.com/ingredients/ingredients01.htm


I think a lot of the confusion comes from the name BB meaning Blemish Balm leads most to think of an anti-acne product. I realize now that some are meant for that purpose while others are anti-aging ect. Smile

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Not sure, the seem to be in their own class of skin care-cosmetics?

BB Cream, aka Blemish Balm is an innovative multifunctional product category that blends skincare
and cosmetic using botanical ingredients. It started off as a soothing treatment balm that dermatologists
and surgeons used on patients who underwent laser skin treatments. It was used to help shield and
protect as well as regenerate delicate skin. Korean celebrities soon noticed and acted on this cream
sparking a huge craze in Korea, due to its excellent results. The craze has grown exponentially
into over 10 countries and now in North America.

What is it? BB cream moisturizes, covers up naturally while rejuvenating skin underneath, as well as
a sun protectant. Some have whitening and wrinkle repair as well as a glossy shimmer. The colour
seeps into the skin naturally that it hardly seems like one has makeup on (unlike foundations) yet sill
creating a flawless look. This is why it usually comes in one colour (the more you rub, the more it ‘seeps’
into the skin). It is also a natural moisturizer and makes the skin feel dewy and not oily. BB Creams are
made from high grade nutrition with anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-oxidating properties that are
healthy for the skin. The ingredients vary in different types of BB creams but BRTC’s bb creams have
many plant extracts and derivatives. Some of the ingredients used in BRTC BB creams include
Allantoin,
green tea, tea tree oil, Portulaca Oleracea, grapefruit and special indian bark.

BRTC is an original BB Cream brand that has grown in all major Asian countries. It is
endorsed by
doctors, dermatologists, popstars and other celebrities. BRTC is regarded as one of the highest grade
of BB Creams and is regarded as a medical brand and sold to many hospitals, derm spas and
retail locations. BRTC products start with a strong R&D process and products are derived from a
combination of 9 different patents to solve specific skin problems. BRTC undergoes a rigorous safety,
heavy metals and 3rd party efficacy tests to ensure its suitability for all skin types focusing on sensitive
skin. BRTC is now compliant with FDA and suitable to the local market.

http://www.brtcstore.com/bb-cream.html


Thanks so much DarkMoon, now I'm a little better educated on this subject.I have and use the Clinique Sheer City Block SPF 25 and I would have to agree that it is more of an anti-aging/sunscreen type of a product, however I do love it for days when I don't want to wear any heavy makeup etc. Smile
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Divine Diva,

That makes 2 of us that are more educated about them! I do think if I were ever to try one I would want to make sure it meets safety standards and figure out how to best match it to our skin tone. Smile

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I do think that Clinique class there Sheer City Block SPF 25 and there Super City Block SPF 30 as BB creams, however I wasn't entirely sure what a BB cream was until a few years ago and I'm still not 100% sure!! I think I was a little out of touch, anyway quite a few of the Asian and Japanese websites promote BB creams which to me just means a tinted moisturiser with sun protect, however I could be wrong?? Smile


No, you are right. It's not quite TM and not full foundation. The ingredients are nothing new or miraculous but the antioxidants and herbs they use are more specifically Asian. So really they are just a market specific cosmetic addressing the needs and wants of a particular segment just like Fashion Fair or Iman cosmetics.
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kids, eureka! I was looking through my copy of Dont Go To The Cosmetics Counter Without Me when I noticed her review for Almay Smart Shade makeup is exactly like a BB cream! Three limited shades that self adjust to your skin tone! The ingredients are pretty well the same too!

So my theory is correct! It is already available if you just read between the lines with the working and hype! There is also Max Factor Color Adapt and Covergirl Trublend.

I think I am going to find some to test and this will let me see the stuff in person, get an ingredient list and return if my skin gets mad!
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I meant marketing and hype. Why can't I edit my post? There is no edit button?
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bobbi brown is coming out with their version of the BB

http://hopeinablog.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/bobbi-brown-bb-cream-coming-soon/
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to have an idea of BB creams, here are some reviews

http://hopeinablog.wordpress.com/category/bb-cream-reviews/
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I have come across quite a lot of posts both here and on other forums also Keliu, and I have yet to figure out what is anti-aging in a BB cream? Most of what I read says they are very limited in color selection, some like them for acne prone skin and others say they cause breakouts???
I also find many are Korean or Japanese without any English ingredient listings, so not really sure what they contain that's anti-aging.


Me think it is just a Asian/Japanese/Korean term.

The same product in North America would be a tinted moisturizer.

Kind of how the fancy title for pita bread is now "flatbread".

But the funny thing about these "BB" cream is most do not even treat blemishes and are just tinted cream.
I really like the Marcelle tinted moisturizer spf 15,or Olay touch of foundation is really good too!
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I meant marketing and hype. Why can't I edit my post? There is no edit button?


The "Edit" button is only available for a short amount of time after you make a post - then it disappears.

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sakura wrote:
I meant marketing and hype. Why can't I edit my post? There is no edit button?


The "Edit" button is only available for a short amount of time after you make a post - then it disappears.


Spooky magic trick, isn't it?

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kids, eureka! I was looking through my copy of Dont Go To The Cosmetics Counter Without Me when I noticed her review for Almay Smart Shade makeup is exactly like a BB cream! Three limited shades that self adjust to your skin tone! The ingredients are pretty well the same too!

So my theory is correct! It is already available if you just read between the lines with the working and hype! There is also Max Factor Color Adapt and Covergirl Trublend.

I think I am going to find some to test and this will let me see the stuff in person, get an ingredient list and return if my skin gets mad!


Sakura I actually have the Almay Smart Shade Makeup and I do quite like it, however I found it didn't cover as well as a foundation and now I know why!!! Thanks for posting on some of the brands and allowing us living under a rock, like me info on BB Creams. Smile
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Divine Diva,

That makes 2 of us that are more educated about them! I do think if I were ever to try one I would want to make sure it meets safety standards and figure out how to best match it to our skin tone. Smile


Well at least I'm not the only one who wasn't entirely sure of these creams and there benefits. Very Happy

I found this link that actually was quite interesting to read about BB Creams.

http://www.squidoo.com/b-b-cream

Some of the sites I have looked at were quite hilarious with the choices of colour etc because if I used any of them I would look like I had Jaundice because some are soooooooo Yellow!! What's the go with that??? I thought they were meant to look natural. Shock Smile
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has anyone seen this site? type in a product and it gives you the ingredients. You really have to evaluate the claims of natural.

http://www.cosdna.com/eng/cosmetic_457c41450.html
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