Review: Cellese AnteAGE Serum & Accelerator
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free skin care · Thu May 24, 2012 4:45 pm

DarkMoon wrote:

I mean if you can take that kind of hit on the price plus offer a Loyalty Discount to your Canadian customers, that says you are selling at a massive markup to me!

What's Up Doc?

You are making assumptions that are not accurate.

We are trying to do the very best we can for everyone. Trying to level the playing field for our Canadian friends does not take anything from your pocket, I assure you. It is not a zero sum game.

free skin care · Thu May 24, 2012 6:27 pm

leeleedeedee wrote:

Dark Moon....I am also interested in you progress with AnteAGE. Any updates to report?

DarkMoon, we are still waiting for your review! Rolling Eyes

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 2:18 am

marina wrote:

Because they can and then there's pst and gst which is about 14% in these parts as well.

20% tax for us in the UK! Shock

I understand that Canadian Customs are just as annoyingly efficient as ours, too. Wish they weren't. You have my sympathy. Crying or Very sad

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 2:51 am

When selling or buying internationally it is a mine field. What about the difference in exchange rates? What about exorbitant postage charges? All these things come into play - some you win, some you lose.

IMO, you can't go offering some nationalities discounts and not others. For example, the Brits might have to pay x amount in tax, but then their pound is worth so much more than our Australian dollar that they're getting the product cheaper - and Australia is so far away we have to pay much more for shipping.

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 6:49 am

Keliu wrote:

When selling or buying internationally it is a mine field. What about the difference in exchange rates? What about exorbitant postage charges? All these things come into play - some you win, some you lose.

IMO, you can't go offering some nationalities discounts and not others. For example, the Brits might have to pay x amount in tax, but then their pound is worth so much more than our Australian dollar that they're getting the product cheaper - and Australia is so far away we have to pay much more for shipping.

We shall take it one at a time. We only ship to US, Canada & Australia now, so that is where we will try to concentrate. What about duties or GST in Australia?

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:16 am

Dr. J did you ever decide on a loyalty discount program? If you did I never received an email. Crying or Very sad

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:49 am

CookieD wrote:

Dr. J did you ever decide on a loyalty discount program? If you did I never received an email. Crying or Very sad

Cheer up. I think they go out today.

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 8:19 am

DrJ wrote:

CookieD wrote:

Dr. J did you ever decide on a loyalty discount program? If you did I never received an email. Crying or Very sad

Cheer up. I think they go out today.

Thank you. Smile

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 9:18 am

majorb wrote:

20% tax for us in the UK! Shock

I understand that Canadian Customs are just as annoyingly efficient as ours, too. Wish they weren't. You have my sympathy. Crying or Very sad

I am from the UK, regularly purchase from outside the EU (not just skincare) and hardly ever get caught for the duty. Admittedly I rarely purchase items as pricey as the AnteAGE system. Maybe they only bother to charge for items over a value that is actually much higher than the £15 threshold? I don't mind paying tax, but I do object to Royal Mail's £9 'handling fee'. Mad

"Customs Duty is charged as a percentage of the total value of the goods - that is the sterling equivalent of the price paid abroad. To work out the percentage, each type of product is given a 'commodity code'. This tells you what the Customs Duty rate percentage is for that particular product, based on whether it's being imported or exported.

There are around 14,000 different classifications. The duty rate percentage for each may vary according to the country the goods come from. The average percentage is between 5 and 9 per cent, but it can be as low as 0 per cent or as high as 85 per cent."
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/tax-and-duty.htm

HTH. Wink

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 10:31 am

Some things I have ordered from the States has breezed through the border without having to pay any fees but I think it's usually been under $200. It might depend too on what shipping is used.

Thank you DrJ for trying to make purchasing your products as affordable as possible for everyone! IMO what more can anyone ask for!

I have only been using AntiAGE serum and Accelerator for a week now but I am loving these products and want to continue using them. Other than RA twice a week and sunscreen I'm not using anything else and like the simplicity of this system.

I have not experienced any irritation and can use the serum around my eyes w/o any issues which is a biggy for me.

I use 2 pumps of serum and 2-3 pumps of accelerator twice a day on face & neck. Both products feel very rich yet absorb completely. Skin is feeling soft, very smooth & deeply hydrated. Will update after I've used longer.

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 10:58 am

DrJ wrote:

It would be hard for me to convince anyone that the appearance of acne is a good thing, but nonetheless many professionals make this argument, for the reasons noted. My usual advice is to continue to use the serum (hold the accelerator for a few days) while attending to the other things (unclogging pores, eliminating bacteria). Start the accelerator back when all is calm again, which shouldn’t take long.

That's exactly what I did. I gave the accelerator a break, the skin went back to normal, and once I introduced it back into my routine, the skin became bumpy as though it is about to break out again.

DrJ wrote:

Given the timing of these factors, starting a product and seeing something erupt the first few days does not mean the product caused it. The conditions were already set. It may have accelerated its appearance (e.g. by increasing skin cell production in the basal layer, therefore more superficial ones are suddenly being shed).

So you are saying that the conditions were already set before I started using the accelerator, does that mean that have I not used the accelerator, the bumps would have never appeared?

BTW, I only get breakouts when I eat dairy products.

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 6:20 pm

DrJ wrote:

We shall take it one at a time. We only ship to US, Canada & Australia now, so that is where we will try to concentrate. What about duties or GST in Australia?

We have GST - but, so far, I have never had to pay duty on goods bought from overseas. It is a common practice to label the item "GIFT" in order to avoid taxes.

With regard to exchange rates, my point is this. Recently the Australian dollar has been at par or slightly higher than the US dollar - which has been great for us as it means we are paying a comparable price for the product and only have to fork out more for the postage. But if our dollar were to go down to where it was about two years ago when it was only worth 70 cents to your dollar, then we end up paying considerably more for the product. Because the British pound is so strong at the moment, they get to pay less. There is nothing any of us can do about this. Therefore I think it's crazy to start offering incentives to certain countries. However, a loyalty programme is definitely a terrific idea.

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 6:39 pm

Keliu wrote:

We have GST - but, so far, I have never had to pay duty on goods bought from overseas. It is a common practice to label the item "GIFT" in order to avoid taxes.

With regard to exchange rates, my point is this. Recently the Australian dollar has been at par or slightly higher than the US dollar - which has been great for us as it means we are paying a comparable price for the product and only have to fork out more for the postage. But if our dollar were to go down to where it was about two years ago when it was only worth 70 cents to your dollar, then we end up paying considerably more for the product. Because the British pound is so strong at the moment, they get to pay less. There is nothing any of us can do about this. Therefore I think it's crazy to start offering incentives to certain countries. However, a loyalty programme is definitely a terrific idea.

It does not matter which currency is stronger or weaker. The cost of living is also different in different countries, so what? Should we now compare it as well? The idea is to attract Canadian consumers to try the AnteAge products. Living in Canada implies: 1)Lower salaries 2) Higher customs. How can one lure Canadians into trying an expensive product from abroad? You give them a price break (at least until they are hooked!)

Stop being jealous, ladies! Very Happy

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:01 pm

RussianSunshine wrote:

It does not matter which currency is stronger or weaker. The cost of living is also different in different countries, so what? Should we now compare it as well? The idea is to make the AnteAge products attractive to Canadian consumers. Living in Canada implies: 1)Lower salaries 2) Higher customs. How can one lure Canadians into buying expensive products from abroad? You give them a price break.

Stop being jealous, ladies! Very Happy

Of for Heavens sakes. I'm not bringing jealousy into this!!! I'm simply pointing out that different nationalities have to deal with different issues when purchasing on the internet.

By your logic, if companies want to lure Australians into purchasing their products they should offer discounted postal rates.

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:04 pm

Keliu wrote:

By your logic, if companies want to lure Australians into purchasing their products they should offer discounted postal rates.

They do not have to offer discounted postal rates, but they do label goods as GIFT, eh? FYI, it is not legal. Wink

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:13 pm

RussianSunshine wrote:

Keliu wrote:

By your logic, if companies want to lure Australians into purchasing their products they should offer discounted postal rates.

They do not have to offer discounted postal rates, but they do label goods as GIFT, eh? FYI, it is not legal. Wink

No, it's tax avoidance. But it's not me that's doing it. You mean you have never purchase anything from overseas and it's arrived saying "GIFT"? I'm merely pointing out that if Celesse were to label AnteAGe as a gift, neither they, nor you need pay the tax.

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:14 pm

Keliu wrote:

RussianSunshine wrote:

Keliu wrote:

By your logic, if companies want to lure Australians into purchasing their products they should offer discounted postal rates.

They do not have to offer discounted postal rates, but they do label goods as GIFT, eh? FYI, it is not legal. Wink

No, it's tax avoidance. But it's not me that's doing it. You mean you have never purchase anything from overseas and it's arrived saying "GIFT"?

I sure have when I purchase some things from Hong Kong!

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:16 pm

Keliu, labeling something as a GIFT when it is not is a way of attracting foreign customers who have to pay duties.

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:18 pm

RussianSunshine wrote:

Keliu, labeling something as a GIFT when it is not is a way of attracting foreign customers who have to pay duties.

RS,

We may not get hit with customs charges on this product but I paid taxes which my state are now attempting to raise!

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:22 pm

DarkMoon, well, then let's ask DrJ to label the items as a GIFT and to put a value of $15 on the parcel, and let everyone go home happy! Very Happy

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:30 pm

RussianSunshine wrote:

Keliu, labeling something as a GIFT when it is not is a way of attracting foreign customers who have to pay duties.

Exactly!! That's the point I was making!

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:33 pm

RussianSunshine wrote:

DarkMoon, well, then let's ask DrJ to label the items as a GIFT and to put a value of $15 on the parcel, and let everyone go home happy! Very Happy

I get hit with the tax at check out RS. Smile

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:42 pm

DarkMoon wrote:

We may not get hit with customs charges on this product but I paid taxes which my state are now attempting to raise!

DM, we pay federal as well as provincial taxes.

Keliu, I thought you are against incentives to certain countries. I am afraid, it would be better for DrJ to give incentives than to label the products as a GIFT all the time. He might get in trouble for that. Hence, I think, a special purchase program is a better idea.

What would be an even better idea is to lower the price of the products, then his dream to sell a boat load of 'em may actually come true! Very Happy

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:46 pm

RussianSunshine wrote:

DarkMoon wrote:

We may not get hit with customs charges on this product but I paid taxes which my state are now attempting to raise!

DM, we pay federal as well as provincial taxes

As do we RS Smile

free skin care · Fri May 25, 2012 7:53 pm

DarkMoon wrote:

RussianSunshine wrote:

DarkMoon wrote:

We may not get hit with customs charges on this product but I paid taxes which my state are now attempting to raise!

DM, we pay federal as well as provincial taxes

As do we RS Smile

Wow. You guys pay 14.75% at checkout too? I may rethink moving to Florida in me old age

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