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Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:39 am  |
Hi Everyone,
The wealth of information on this forum is unbeliviable.. Thanks everyone so much for putting this wonderful information..
I am now able to notice and pinpoint issues on my face..
I have also realised that off late I have deep grooves around my mouth when I smile.. I wonder if I am making sense when I msay that.. I mean to say that their is deep area around my mouth when I smile.. and when I lift my cheeks little bit with my hands, the depth of the groove becomes less.
Can someone please suggest me something to get rid of this groove?
I am currently doing Tanaka massage, evercises for eyelids.
Thanks
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Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:49 am |
Ok there are two things you need to do in this situation:
Firstly you need to address any muscle sag. As we age our muscles sag towards the centre of our face and downwards which worsens things such as smile lines and nasolabial lines (lines from nose to mouth). The best salon treatment for this is a professional micro-current machine such as CACI or Beautiful Image which will help pull the muscles back in to their original place. A course of 10-12 is normally required with 1 per month as maintenance. If you are strapped for cash or have the time you could do facial exercises which claim to have more or less the same effect. Indeed there are many people on this forum who swear by them. It is a controversial topic but I would probably opt for the salon treatments if you can as, speaking from experience, sometimes when you try and take your skin in to your own hands you can create more problems than you had to begin with and you can end up feeling pretty frustrated.
Secondly you need to replace the lost volume in the cheeks. Nasolabial and smile lines occur because of general lost volume over the face (think of folding a piece of paper in two then trying to fold it again. It will easily fold a second time and cause a crease but fold the piece of paper in half six times then try to fold it a seventh and it will be much harder with much less chance of leaving a crease - such is the nature of old skin with less volume and young skin with lots of volume). But moreover they occur because of lost volume in the cheek area. I would get an HA filler put in the cheek area first. Then if you like the results you could consider something like Sculptra or fat injections. Filler in the cheeks will not only help to lift the nasolabial/smile lines but will also give you a younger appearance as one of the traits of youth is to have the main volume of the face in the cheeks and not below them.
Some people would also suggest to fill the nasolabial folds/ smile lines themselves but best to see if the cheek filler does the trick first as filler around the mouth has a track record of not looking right for various reasons.
It goes without saying that a lot of the success of the filler depends on the person who injects it. Research them. Do not be tempted to go for the cheapest injector you can find. Go for one who has a reputation for successful injections in the particular area you want to treat. Be prepared to travel, pay good money and have an appointment some time in the future for this but it is worth it. It is your face after all.
Hope this helps. Good luck  |
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Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:02 am |
HI Moon,
Thanks for your message..
I am really not into fillers at the moment..Not only they are extremely expensive, but my husband is very against them.. I am more of a proponent of natural methods and so will stick to facial exercises and Tanaka massages..
I want to know if their are specific exercises that can target this area and improve the hollowness around the mouth..
Thanks,
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Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:27 am |
Mansi
If you are willing to do facial exercises then by far you want to do a program that hits all the facial muscles, not just target muscles. I know originally you mentioned hooded lids, and I kind of think they can be an exception because its just the lid itself you are talking about and perhaps the forehead, but when you start talking about cheeks, lips etc, because the muscles all are ribbon like and interwine round one another, yu need to exercise them all. I don’t think you should attempt to target one area, as that’s what you will read a great deal about called spot training and is always a bad idea because it becomes uneven looking. Instead, work your whole face.
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HI Moon,
Thanks for your message..
I am really not into fillers at the moment..Not only they are extremely expensive, but my husband is very against them.. I am more of a proponent of natural methods and so will stick to facial exercises and Tanaka massages..
I want to know if their are specific exercises that can target this area and improve the hollowness around the mouth..
Thanks,
Mansi |
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:13 am |
| Moon wrote: |
Ok there are two things you need to do in this situation:
Firstly you need to address any muscle sag. As we age our muscles sag towards the centre of our face and downwards which worsens things such as smile lines and nasolabial lines (lines from nose to mouth). The best salon treatment for this is a professional micro-current machine such as CACI or Beautiful Image which will help pull the muscles back in to their original place. A course of 10-12 is normally required with 1 per month as maintenance. If you are strapped for cash or have the time you could do facial exercises which claim to have more or less the same effect. Indeed there are many people on this forum who swear by them. It is a controversial topic but I would probably opt for the salon treatments if you can as, speaking from experience, sometimes when you try and take your skin in to your own hands you can create more problems than you had to begin with and you can end up feeling pretty frustrated.
Secondly you need to replace the lost volume in the cheeks. Nasolabial and smile lines occur because of general lost volume over the face (think of folding a piece of paper in two then trying to fold it again. It will easily fold a second time and cause a crease but fold the piece of paper in half six times then try to fold it a seventh and it will be much harder with much less chance of leaving a crease - such is the nature of old skin with less volume and young skin with lots of volume). But moreover they occur because of lost volume in the cheek area. I would get an HA filler put in the cheek area first. Then if you like the results you could consider something like Sculptra or fat injections. Filler in the cheeks will not only help to lift the nasolabial/smile lines but will also give you a younger appearance as one of the traits of youth is to have the main volume of the face in the cheeks and not below them.
Some people would also suggest to fill the nasolabial folds/ smile lines themselves but best to see if the cheek filler does the trick first as filler around the mouth has a track record of not looking right for various reasons.
It goes without saying that a lot of the success of the filler depends on the person who injects it. Research them. Do not be tempted to go for the cheapest injector you can find. Go for one who has a reputation for successful injections in the particular area you want to treat. Be prepared to travel, pay good money and have an appointment some time in the future for this but it is worth it. It is your face after all.
Hope this helps. Good luck |
Just wanted to comment on such a wonderful well thought out and considered reply to the OP.  |
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:08 am |
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| Just wanted to comment on such a wonderful well thought out and considered reply to the OP. |
Thank you for your kind words Rebecca1. Very sweet of you |
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Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:21 am |
Hi TheresaMary,
Thanks a lot for your advice..
I am planning to start on Shape your face by tom very soon..
I have facersize by Carole Maggio but that did not do anything for..
Thankss
Mansi |
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Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:25 am |
| Yikes! $3,500!! I had no idea they were so expensive. |
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