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Tue May 21, 2013 5:39 pm

Hi all! I am a few months shy of 38 and I have a ton of fine lines. I have very, very thin skin and it is already becoming crepey. My 70 year old mother has less wrinkles than I do! I am mostly concerned about the vertical lines on my cheeks - I think it may be due to loss of fat in the cheeks as I always had very round cheeks until about 5 years ago which is when I started noticing the accelerated aging and everyone thinking I am older than my husband who is 5 years older than me! Any advice to help the fine lines?

Tue May 21, 2013 7:20 pm

Every person ages differently. The sun plays a big part on the premature aging process. Try and drink a lot of water and avoid the sun as much as you can or always use sunblock. I used to work as an esthetician, but i know for own experience that the sun is our number 1 enemy if we love to stay in the sun for prolongued hours. I have done a lot of damage to my skin experimenting, so trust me your problem can easily be corrected with proper care of your skin from the inside/out. all the best!

free skin care · Tue May 21, 2013 11:44 pm

Hi there. You might want to look into dermarolling. There is a ton of information here and on the net about it. Have a look at the owndoc site by sarah vaughter and read your way around the process to decide if it is something you are willing to invest time in.

You can regenerate skin, with work.

It would be worth figuring out what is causing the skin to be less resilient and strong than you would wish, from the point of view of your nutritional status.

There is a good thread here on green smoothies. We need to ingest antioxidants and good oil as well as keep hydrated.

free skin care · Wed May 22, 2013 2:10 am

I can tell some of my own experience.There's many habits will cause fine lines,such as the food,the pose of sleep,a person's mood,etc.My advise is to keep good mood,have healthy food,take a good ret and do some exercises.

free skin care · Wed May 22, 2013 9:52 am

Welcome to this forum mountainwoman Smile

Sad to say that we all will get there, I mean "aging"... But I think we can do something to "age gracefully"... One thing I must emphasize is proper diet. We can not eat the same food that we are eating before. Choose better foods that will help regenerate the cells inside our bodies... Avoid processed foods as much as possible as it contains tons of salt which is very bad for your body. Regular exercises and healthy lifestyle will help keep our bodies in proper "functioning" mode. Being happy and contented is another factor because if we are stress, our skin is stress too and it shows.... Regular skin-care routine is also important to the skin to renew itself i.e. weekly (mild) exfoliation and choosing the right skin-care products suited for you....Pamper yourself once in a while (at home facials, do-it-yourself) will help your skin and body. You don't need a lot of money to do this, just have time for yourself. Oh, I forgot to include SUNSCREEN of at least 30 SPF that you must use everyday to protect your skin from sun damage... Good luck and hope this helps! Smile

free skin care · Wed May 22, 2013 2:18 pm

Use sunscreen and get the PUFAs (omega 3 & 6) out of your diet; they speed up wrinkles and make the skin more susceptible to sun damage and age spots. Buy a PMD to exfoliate fine lines and use peptide serums and retinoids to rebuild your skin.

free skin care · Wed May 22, 2013 5:49 pm

I agree with everything that has been said here, but I can say that it sounds like your skin is dehydrated. It's not simple to re-hydrate the skin. You should be drinking copious amounts of water all throughout the day, use a hydrating moisturizer, and like gretchen said, exfoliate the dead skin away. Love jade1234's recommendations about diet, too. Look up alkaline foods, focus on consuming them and stay away from acidifying foods.

Good luck, update us on your progress!

--avalange

free skin care · Wed May 22, 2013 5:57 pm

An additional suggestion which goes along with the hydration and alkalynizing principles is to buy 'green foods' such as Barley grass powder and use in the morning in a large glass of purified water. I'd also get wheatgrass and maybe a container of spirulina and have each of these at least once during the day. (I do at least a Tablespoon of spirulina and heaping teaspoons of the others).
I also suggest an oil like Udi's oil 3-6-9 which has the proper balance of omegas -excellent or skin. I take a Tablespoon or more a day.
Green smoothies or Juicing are other options.

Beauty starts within and shows/glows without.

free skin care · Wed May 22, 2013 6:35 pm

sister, agreed!
I did a second post on drinking lots of water and lemon water in the morning after all the scalp flexing and relaxing. Wink

Great minds think alike!

PS I have a post I'm writing on green powders. Have you tried Amazing Greens Raw Reserve? It's so wonderful! In addition to all the sprouted grasses, it has tons of sea vegetables and probiotics. Love it.

http://amazinggrass.com/product/74/Raw-Reserve-Green-SuperFood-30-servings.html

--avalange

sister sweets wrote:

An additional suggestion which goes along with the hydration and alkalynizing principles is to buy 'green foods' such as Barley grass powder and use in the morning in a large glass of purified water. I'd also get wheatgrass and maybe a container of spirulina and have each of these at least once during the day. (I do at least a Tablespoon of spirulina and heaping teaspoons of the others).
I also suggest an oil like Udi's oil 3-6-9 which has the proper balance of omegas -excellent or skin. I take a Tablespoon or more a day.
Green smoothies or Juicing are other options.

Beauty starts within and shows/glows without.

free skin care · Thu May 23, 2013 7:20 am

http://amazinggrass.com/product/74/Raw-Reserve-Green-SuperFood-30-servings.html

Thanks Ava - This looks really great. ***I use a greens mix from Healthforce Nutritionals called Vitamineral Green as well as a formula of theirs called Earth. I like the company philosophy.***
I don't think their products have probiotics which makes this mix of yours interesting.
I will definitely get this when I finish what I have. I know if you recommend it - it's worth trying.

I love your blog site. Great topics. I know you will put your true self into it.

I keep a bowl of lemons on my kitchen table and use one everyday. It feels so good to do the right things for your health... [/i]

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sister sweets wrote:

An additional suggestion which goes along with the hydration and alkalynizing principles is to buy 'green foods' such as Barley grass powder and use in the morning in a large glass of purified water. I'd also get wheatgrass and maybe a container of spirulina and have each of these at least once during the day. (I do at least a Tablespoon of spirulina and heaping teaspoons of the others).
I also suggest an oil like Udi's oil 3-6-9 which has the proper balance of omegas -excellent or skin. I take a Tablespoon or more a day.
Green smoothies or Juicing are other options.

Beauty starts within and shows/glows without.

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Thu May 23, 2013 4:45 pm

DO everything you can from within like everyone is suggesting here - especially the green smoothies and alkaline diet which can really reduce inflammation and re-balance skin.

It does sound you need to repair the acid mantle of your skin, which might have been damaged by using products that are too harsh, outside conditions or dehydration and stress from within.

Fine lines, especially vertical ones and those that come with crepey skin, are from dehydration due to a lack of this protective layer of oil - different to wrinkles which are caused by a loss of collagen and elastin deeper down.

Be very gentle with your skin with simple cleaners, emollient moisturizers and protection from sun/wind/cold.

Look at doing a course of ultrasound treatment to stimulate the underlying tissues, which will increase circulation and strengthen the cells.

This will build up your skin and return it to it's healthy, smooth look - the way it should be! A home device like the Fyold Lite is a good option, you can use it on an ongoing basis as part of your overall skin care.

Just remember it takes a while to rebuild skin and to see any great improvement, but it is possible and fine lines can be improved!

Fri May 24, 2013 1:09 am

Hi mountainwoman,
You should have need to good diet rich with vitamin C, daily exercise and to wash your face with a anti aging moisturizing cream twice a day.Sleep well with proper way. Your skin is thin its not good for you. So take proper diet. Although today I got a anti aging moisturizing cream when I was searching skin care tweets on twitter. Product is suitable.You can also read about that moisturizing cream from searching dermology anti aging cream on internet.if you found it helpful then I think you should have to give a try for it. I hope it will helpful to you.

free skin care · Fri May 24, 2013 10:10 am

Although I agree that the PMD(microdermabrasion) may help with the fine lines you have, be sure to follow the instructions and do a dummy run on say your arms. Use conservatively - once every few months as this can be quite aggressive on thin skin. A gentle acid peel with a low % of acid (10%), such as lactic, would also help, and the lower acids produce a slight scruffing on the the skin as opposed to a major peel. Again, start conservatively, leave on for the minimum amount of time initially, (you can build up the time and strength once you understand how your skin responds), again because you have 'thin' skin, also only do these treatments once every few months, it is my opinion that over exfoliation can do more harm than good. At the moment I am using an ultrasonic skin peeling scrubber I got from ebay which seems to gently exfoliate and can be flipped over to ultrasonically 'push' product (serums, moisturisers) into the skin which renders them more effective.
Red light therapy has a good track record on aging skin and small hand helds can be bought on ebay and amazon relatively cheaply.
If you are ready to spend the big bucks there is a ton of information on this forum regarding Tria and Reaura. These are home laser treatments. Personally, I have had excellent results on fine lines using my Reaura, and my skin certainly appears plumper, and my skin denser.
Photoqueen, a member here is currently reviewing an ultrasonic Photorejuvenation LED home device incorporating red light led and ultrasound. This is affordable, and most probably a good 'starter' device for someone just beginning to use home equipment. Please look at his first review for this device. He has also reviewed other antiaging devices on his blog and provides a slew of information as to how these devices work.
Lastly, I must reiterate the advice above, sunscreen, sunscreen, sunscreen at all times, no matter what the weather. Many moisturisers incorporate suncreen now, as do foundations. Use them!
Good luck. Neutral

free skin care · Fri May 24, 2013 7:55 pm

I have PMD and I wont recommend it for a delicate thin skin, it's way too aggressive!

Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:03 pm

I just realized I had messages to the post I wrote in May! Sorry I didn't get back to you all to thank you for all the wonderful advice! I have had a difficult year so I think that has a lot to do with the aging - on top of sun damage. My left side is much more wrinkled than my right so I do think it is sun damage. (from driving) I have been using hyaluronic acid for the past year and although I saw improvement in my eye area with dry skin, my cheeks are definitely worse this year than last. Is HA OK for thin skin like mine or could it make it worse? I eat a very healthy diet and exercise but do not get great sleep due to young children (another reason for the aging-lol) Would something like Retin-A be too strong for my skin. I had a vitamin C lotion I was using and it caused some inflammation around my eyes - the rest of my face was fine. For starters, what is a good product I can use to help regenerate the skin? I am happy to hear this because, really, I don't mind aging but don't like my skin to look so wrinkly at only 38. I just want to look my age. Thank you so much everyone!

free skin care · Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:46 pm

Hormonal decline can thin the skin, thin the bone structure holding the muscles taught and cause the subq fat to evaporate. All the healthy lifestyle tips are excellent, but hormonal replacement and fillers might give you more bang for your buck if this really is still bugging you, AND *if* this is the cause of the changes you are seeing. Just my 2 cents.

free skin care · Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:13 pm

mountainwoman wrote:

I just realized I had messages to the post I wrote in May! Sorry I didn't get back to you all to thank you for all the wonderful advice! I have had a difficult year so I think that has a lot to do with the aging - on top of sun damage. My left side is much more wrinkled than my right so I do think it is sun damage. (from driving) I have been using hyaluronic acid for the past year and although I saw improvement in my eye area with dry skin, my cheeks are definitely worse this year than last. Is HA OK for thin skin like mine or could it make it worse? I eat a very healthy diet and exercise but do not get great sleep due to young children (another reason for the aging-lol) Would something like Retin-A be too strong for my skin. I had a vitamin C lotion I was using and it caused some inflammation around my eyes - the rest of my face was fine. For starters, what is a good product I can use to help regenerate the skin? I am happy to hear this because, really, I don't mind aging but don't like my skin to look so wrinkly at only 38. I just want to look my age. Thank you so much everyone!

Retin A sounds like a good move. Get a low percentage and start slow, every 3 nights. Ramp up to every other night. Expect some flakiness and be prepared to wait 6-12 months before seeing real results. It will help to thicken your skin but it takes a while.

Use sunscreen every day. Some people can use vit C and others can't. You might try another product or one that is more mild.

free skin care · Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:59 am

Sun doesnt age.It is pure energy.
The disability for distirbution of sun energy ages.(due to toxins,aka acids left over from bad diet and enviromental pollution).
Sunscreen ages cause it accumulates titanium dioxide in the body.

My advice:stay on fruits and some vegetables and throw away all vitamins and chemicals.They eat your body ,cause the stomach tries to break them down by stomach acids,because they are inorganic and non natural.

Dont be fooled by the vitamin people that are being self poisoned by taking inorganic industrial sludge.
Vitamins come from the living fruit so you might benefit from them if you eat the fruit some minutes after you cut it from the tree.
The source for vitamins is SUN.

free skin care · Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:32 am

panoslydios wrote:

Sun doesnt age.It is pure energy.
The disability for distirbution of sun energy ages.(due to toxins,aka acids left over from bad diet and enviromental pollution).
Sunscreen ages cause it accumulates titanium dioxide in the body.

My advice:stay on fruits and some vegetables and throw away all vitamins and chemicals.They eat your body ,cause the stomach tries to break them down by stomach acids,because they are inorganic and non natural.

Dont be fooled by the vitamin people that are being self poisoned by taking inorganic industrial sludge.
Vitamins come from the living fruit so you might benefit from them if you eat the fruit some minutes after you cut it from the tree.
The source for vitamins is SUN.

I respectfully, disagree with your above statements; as far as I know, you just made em without any proof...

I am no fan of pharmaceuticals but i love vitamins and supplements and they have helped me lots... and sunblock is a must...

free skin care · Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:20 am

If you feel yor skin is thinning too quickly, I think you should see a dr, and ask for a blood test for your hormones levels, and go from there.

free skin care · Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:02 pm

daler wrote:

panoslydios wrote:

Sun doesnt age.It is pure energy.
The disability for distirbution of sun energy ages.(due to toxins,aka acids left over from bad diet and enviromental pollution).
Sunscreen ages cause it accumulates titanium dioxide in the body.

My advice:stay on fruits and some vegetables and throw away all vitamins and chemicals.They eat your body ,cause the stomach tries to break them down by stomach acids,because they are inorganic and non natural.

Dont be fooled by the vitamin people that are being self poisoned by taking inorganic industrial sludge.
Vitamins come from the living fruit so you might benefit from them if you eat the fruit some minutes after you cut it from the tree.
The source for vitamins is SUN.

I respectfully, disagree with your above statements; as far as I know, you just made em without any proof...

I am no fan of pharmaceuticals but i love vitamins and supplements and they have helped me lots... and sunblock is a must...

No they have not helped you.Any benefit you have seen is prolly due to placebo and of course alkalizing diet(mainly fruits)and needling etc...Sun block is a no no.
We need to define again our relationship with sun,because sun is our MAIN source of vitamins but unfortunately due to the acidic accumulation of the toxic left overs of bad diet,the body cant distirbute the solar energy freely so we get burned and damage.
Everything you see has solar energy in it.You are being constructed by solar energy.Please stop the industrial sludges for your own good .

Proof?The rising of sunblock use went along with the rising of skin cancer.I am not debating on poisons.

free skin care · Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:48 am

Diet and lifestyle contribute to a lot in aging. Do you have very high levels of stress? This is a huge contribution. But also genes give us a huge contribution and we can't pick who our parents are. Some ppl just age quicker and it sucks. As we hit a certain age, it's true that we start resembling our mothers. At age 38, it may be a good age to start ultrasound therapy like thermage or ultherapy to increase your body's collagen production and give your face a refreshed look as well as combine it with xeomin for prevention of wrinkles. Also sunscreen like many mentioned is a must, but this is just a prevention for sun damage.

free skin care · Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:12 am

panoslydios wrote:

Proof?The rising of sunblock use went along with the rising of skin cancer.I am not debating on poisons.

no, its not the rise in sunblock casing skincancer, it's the rise in tanning beds usage! anyways, you have a right to your opinion.....

also, imo, people should avoid chemical sunblocks and use physical ones..

free skin care · Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:40 am

Those that get skin cancer are more prone to not wear sunblock. Also, with the rapid environmental destruction since the industrial revolution, that has thinned the ozone layer allowing the Uv rays to penetrate through more powerfully thus increasing the chances of skin cancer which is why we need to wear protection even more. We can also find the correlation between the time of the industrial revolution and skin cancer.

Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:20 pm

Thank you all for your advice. I think genetics do play a huge role because I have friends who are sun worshipers and their skin looks nice and plump. I will look into thermage and ultherapy. Thanks everyone Smile

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