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vanessa93
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Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:12 am  |
I have a permatan on my face and neck from when i was a child. I have tried everything from lactic acid peels to retain a and vit c serum but nothing worked. I rarely go out in the sun but when I do I wear sunscreen.
Has anyone ever removed a permatan? any tips for me? |
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Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:23 am |
That's horrible. 
Have you tried any of the hardcore lighteners like hydroquinone? |
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vanessa93
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Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:35 pm |
| Chlorophyll wrote: |
That's horrible.
Have you tried any of the hardcore lighteners like hydroquinone? |
yes I have for a while and stopped because I read horrible things about it |
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Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:00 pm |
Have you considered any laser treatments? A lot of cosmetic lasers address pigmentation from hardcore CO2 lasers to the more gentle non- ablative (often a few sessions are needed with the more gentle lasers). Even the at home lasers (Reaura, Tria) address pigmentation.
A lot of us on this forum do our own acid peels at home. I had some peels done professionally before I felt confident enough to do them on myself. I see you have tried lactic acid, which is an excellent starter peel, but you may want to step it up a bit to get the results you are looking for. If you go this route, tread very lightly initially. Use a low percentage acid (I use tca @ 12.5% that I get on ebay). Read everything you can here about the peels, and watch youtube posts on how to apply them yourself, this will give you a realistic expectation as to what to expect during the peeling process. Arm yourself with knowledge: there are some scary stories out there! I cannot stress enough to start cautiously. Your skin will still peel even without frosting, maybe just a scruff. There will be some downtime (a few days) whilst your skin peels. You may need to do several sessions spaced a few weeks apart. Finally, a word about the different acids: AHA (glycolic, lactic, fruit acids) are considered 'lighter' (but you are still putting acid on your skin, I would never go beyond 30%) TCA & BHA peels are indicated for oily skin with clogged pores, since these are the acids that can penetrate oil, with the TCA being considered 'medium' strength. The strongest peels (phenol) should be left to the professionals.
I have read that IPL (intense pulsed light) therapy can work to even skin tone but have not tried it. |
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Fantak
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:44 am |
Hello  I'm new on the board but have struggled with a permatan and dark olive skin so maybe I could help.
If you have olive skin or darker I wouldn't suggest using a different acid peel.
The reason is that dark skin tends to overcompensate with melanin when irritated making your permatan even darker and more permanent. Lactic acid actually moisturises the skin (somehow!) so the reaction is less extreme.
I suggest using more concentrated lactic acid peels more often and also making sure that your sunscreen is strong enough. Also avoid the sun as much as you can because your skin will be more prone to darkening.
Don't be afraid of hydroquinone. It is actually extremely safe if used alone at a low percentage (2-4%) or with tretinoin (retin-a). It is only dangerous when mixed with other dangerous chemicals or steroids.
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Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:32 pm |
| Seek out sunscreens with super high SPF...and look into the alpha arbutin products from DHC. BB creams might be good to look into too. |
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Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:53 pm |
Is it permatan or melasma?
First you will need to exfoliate with soaks and scrubs for weeks before using the lightening products. A Lightening Forum might give you some particular regi's others have used. |
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vanessa93
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Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:26 pm |
| Fantak wrote: |
Hello I'm new on the board but have struggled with a permatan and dark olive skin so maybe I could help.
If you have olive skin or darker I wouldn't suggest using a different acid peel.
The reason is that dark skin tends to overcompensate with melanin when irritated making your permatan even darker and more permanent. Lactic acid actually moisturises the skin (somehow!) so the reaction is less extreme.
I suggest using more concentrated lactic acid peels more often and also making sure that your sunscreen is strong enough. Also avoid the sun as much as you can because your skin will be more prone to darkening.
Don't be afraid of hydroquinone. It is actually extremely safe if used alone at a low percentage (2-4%) or with tretinoin (retin-a). It is only dangerous when mixed with other dangerous chemicals or steroids.
Hope that helps |
hi sorry i've been busy i just saw your reply. yes i have olive skin. what acid peels have you used? i have been thinking of using TCA but i'm scared, especially because after doing lactic acid peels for about 2 months it made me breakout with cystic acne which i never had before and it really ruined my skin and gave me huge pores :/ |
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