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Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:13 am  |
| Full of questions this morning! Have been using IS Clinical Proheal Serum in the AM and love it, but recently added the Active Serum at night slowly and now am able to use it every night. WOW! Am about to have to order more Proheal and wondering about switching to Super Serum. Looking to firm up more and my skin is now not as oily. Also using TNS Recovery Complex and hydracool am and pm and occaisionally the ACV toner and Derm Daily Microfoliant alternating with DR H CC. TNS seems to be helping also but the jury is still out. Active is making the MOST difference as far as I can tell. Don't know if I should hold fast to the Proheal, switch to Super or change to say the PSF Emergin-C and O2 instead of proheal and hydracool or alternating between. Just trying to simplify and maximize my products and results. Any thoughts? Thanks. |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:27 am |
Annie
Ultimately, I think your best bet is to consult with the folks at Innovative Skincare, but, unless you have a problem with acne, I think the Super Serum is definitely the superior product. I think its a bad idea to try to subtitute the PSF products. What I don't understand is why you're using the ACV toner!!!
In reading your post, I think you're really doing some overloading overall. If you have sensitive skin, and your using Active Serum, which is a strong exfoliant, I'm not sure why you'd also use a daily microfoliant and the Dr H.
If your looking for some extra firming, the IS Clinical Firming Complex is absolutely awesome stuff. |
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Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:10 pm |
| Your're right about the overdoing. Do you still need to exfoliate if you use the active? I hardly use the toner unless I am not putting on the Active, so that sounds like a step I can skip also. Also, do you recommend the firming over the active as I have read? |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:27 pm |
| Ooops, forgot to add I had a consult from skinterra, theskincareinstitute and the IS Clinical group and they all recommended both Proheal and the Super but I want to try and pare it down to either so I was curious what the users who had tried both thought. One consult recommended poly-vit but the other said no because it can make rosacea flare up so I have steered clear of that one. None had mentioned the non-use of toner so I am glad you brought that up. They all said that Cetaphil was good to start with as a cleanser because it is gentle. I had not asked about exfoliation although I did mention the use of the DR H CC and they didn't make a yeah or nay on it. I think I will definately put away the exfoliants for awhile. Thanks for the help Katee as I know you know your IS Clinical stuff. |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:24 pm |
So many choices  I have some SS left and a sample of the Pro-heal. I really like the Pro-heal better. It seems to be alittle more oily which my skin gladly accepts this time of year. Also it has the benefits of retinol and Vit. E, something SS doesn't have. So for me, when I run out of my SS I will probably invest in the Pro-heal. I do like the Firming complex (have a sample of that too) but I have to add some moisturizer on top this time of year. The verdicts still out on this one due the fact that the mixture of hydroxy acids is relatively low (I believe IS Clinical told me about 3-4% when I inquired awhile back). I understand that this is not their primary exfoliator but alittle higher % would be nice.  Poly-vitamin serum is out for me..stung like heck and got a rash I'd like to try a sample of the Active just to see how my skin reacts (probably not good). Phew sorry so long winded. Perhaps you can contact Mary at The Skin Care Institute and she can send you a sample of SS if you haven't already tried it. I really like Pro-heal. Let us know what you get. |
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Early 40's, normal/dry, Oily T zone (summer) fine lines, hyperpigmentation |
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Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:26 pm |
Oh, one other thing Annie. Why would "they" recommend both Pro-Heal and SS? I thought the main benefit from both is Vit. C. Seems like it would be unnecessary to use both....?  |
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Early 40's, normal/dry, Oily T zone (summer) fine lines, hyperpigmentation |
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Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:19 pm |
| Well "they" (all the consultations) said I could use either. I had the proheal and could try samples of the Super to see which I liked better. I tried the sample alternating, but I could not tell the difference so I thought I would ask someone who had used both to see what they thought. Proheal is recommended more for those of us with rosacea but I didn't know if the super had something the proheal did not. |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:36 pm |
| Where did you get your samples? |
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early-mid 30s || oily-combination, sensitive & acne-prone skin || mild breakouts (Aczone helps a lot) || occasional eczema rashes || fine lines around eyes || very dark under eye cirlces- concealer a must || very fair neutral-warm complexion, blue eyes, blonde hair |
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Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:53 pm |
When I contacted ISC direct with some questions, this is what I got straight from the horses mouth:
Pro-Heal is best for normal-to-oily skin, since both the Pro-Heal Serum and the Firming Complex can be a bit drying. If you find that to be true (I think he meant "NOT to be true"), you may also want to consider the Super Serum next time instead of the Pro-Heal Serum, since the Super Serum is very hydrating and is recommended for most skin types, especially someone who is concerned about anti-aging.
So my take on this is normal-oily = Pro-Heal and normal-dry = Super Serum.
The Active Serum he called their "most popular product" and a "multi-purpose treatment for acne and anti-aging." |
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:46 am |
Amnis-I got my samples from theskincareinstitute. Very helpful phone analysis followed by samples of the proheal, hydracool, eye complex and SESderma cleanser.
Wish IS could combine a serum like proheal and Super as I have aging AND oily skin, although the oily is starting to even out more with the use of the active I think. |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:43 am |
| Thanks Tiger Tim for getting the info from IS. I guess my skin is weird because Pro-Heal "seems" more moisturizing when I apply it. I guess due to the retinol is potentially can be drying to the skin. I'm using it only every other day. Good luck Annie with your decision...I know how tough it can be! |
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:22 am |
I also had some similar questions on that. I have been using pro-heal for my ance-prone skin. It is quite good. Then I stop for a while, and I used another brand of skincare. later, I found that my cheek is full of blackhead. Can you imagine blackhead on the cheek???  I thought it should only be in the T-zone. Now I want to try active serum. But I don't know if that can help me to remove those ugly blackheads.
I have one question, after applying active serum, can I apply the acne spot treatment which contains 1% salicylic acid on my pimples? |
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Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:12 pm |
| I love the Active for pores and blackheads. I've never tried the spot treatment. |
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:32 am |
Annie,
Which serum did you finally decide on?
Just wondering, has IS Clinical staff or Skinterra ever said that the Super Serum can still be effective even though it has turned color?? I have a partial bottle left and am scared to use it..I hate wasting it though!  |
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Early 40's, normal/dry, Oily T zone (summer) fine lines, hyperpigmentation |
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:31 am |
| Still haven't finished using up the proheal yet. Will probably just go back after trying the samples of super, which I just can't tell any real difference. I don't know about the color issue, I would e-mail IS Clinical directly. |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:52 am |
The 2 superserums I ordered from a u.s.site came partially oxidized & I went through them fairly quickly. The last one from EDS came completely clear. I wrapped the bottle in aluminum foil-kept it in a drawer-and it's still almost clear(I'm halfway through).
I used up my other oxidized bottles till the bitter end & still felt they worked. But, this isn't a product you put away for a while to try something else.  |
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:15 am |
Thanks ladies for the replies.
In another thread I mentioned how I stored my SS, which was to deter oxidation. Using it every other day it turned color within 6 weeks. I'm just hesistant in using something I know has oxidized...it's kinda like using an oil that has turned rancid. 
Marina, I'm happy to hear that your SS still worked for you...this makes me feel alittle better and even though I don't use my SS anymore, I will use it up on my chest and arms. |
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:27 am |
| I'd be interested in hearing from the pro-healers about oxidation. I remember seeing it mentionnned that the the addition of vit. e in a c serum deters oxidation. I know that, when I used skinceuticals c & e, the serum stayed fresh much longer - I had even put it away (the sample bottle) for a while & when I used it again it was totally clear. |
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Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:56 am |
| I have not had any oxidation problems with my Proheal and I leave it on my counter (it is in a little basket with other products though). |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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