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Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:13 pm      Reply with quote
Not sure that's a fair comparison, as most of the differences between the two appear not to be from botox.

For example,

* the twin on the left (no botox) has way more sun damage

* the twin on the right (botox) has more full eyebrows, which is known to make people look younger

* the twin on the right (botox) has her lips open in a pert position

* the lighting shadows are more favorable on twin on the right, perfectly hitting the places you want to highlight and contouring the places you want to contour.

* the twin on the left looks like her entire face is losing volume and sagging faster--i.e., she is just naturally losing facial fullness and perkiness faster. For example, I can see that the focal point of the cheeks is lower on the non-botox twin (probably due to both loss of volume and droop) and her under-eye area is thinning faster. Also, the botox twin has less fullness in the buccal area, which brings out her cheekbones even more.

What's interesting to me is that if I subtract off these changes, I'm not sure that botox has produced more than a small effect. I mean you would expect that botox should prevent the eleven lines, forehead lines, and prevent the eyebrows from sitting lower on the forehead. The eleven lines are fainter in the botox twin, but that's not what I think ages the non-botox twin the most. However, the height of eyebrows above the eyes appears to be similar in both women, though you would expect the one with botox to have better lift in the eyebrows, but I don't see it. Now the big difference I do see is that the twin on the left (no botox) has significantly worse eye hooding than the one on the right. But looking further, its hard for me to tell is that the result of no botox or just aging faster or both, as the non-botox twin is losing volume faster in her entire face and slight sagging is just starting to happen. So at the end of the day, it seems like a majority of changes are not due to lack of botox but to her lifestyle, environmental, and photography factors.

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Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:34 pm      Reply with quote
Lacy53 wrote:
[i]Long-Term Effects of Botulinum Toxin Type A (Botox) on Facial Lines
A Comparison in Identical Twins

William J. Binder, MD

Arch Facial Plast Surg. 2006;8:426-431

More photos and information here:

http://externalaffairs.ca/injectables/binder-study

BTW, they are 38 years old at the time of the study (2006)


What?? I just read the study. I can't believe that this was published; there is only ONE set of twins and there are no controls or mention of differences in lifestyle or other factors between the two. And on top of that, Dr. Binder has a financial conflict of interest, as he receives renumeration from Allergan, the makers of Botox.

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