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Sat May 26, 2012 10:43 pm      Reply with quote
miss mei wrote:
I use colloidal silver, it comes in a litre bottle from the health food shop. It's cheap and fantastic! I have acne prone skin and like the antibacterial properties of it. I use it day and night. You can also use it to set powdered makeups.


I read about a man who ingested colloidal silver, and his skin permanantly turned blue.
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Sun May 27, 2012 3:59 am      Reply with quote
miss mei wrote:
I use colloidal silver, it comes in a litre bottle from the health food shop. It's cheap and fantastic! I have acne prone skin and like the antibacterial properties of it. I use it day and night. You can also use it to set powdered makeups.


Wow. Shock This is NOT safe to do. I would NEVER do this. VeronicaM, the condition you refer to is called "Argyria". Here is an article regarding the development of Argyria due to topical application of a silver containing cream: http://dermatology-s10.cdlib.org/144/ped_derm/arygyria/browning.html

And another article on quackwatch: http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html

miss mei you should really consider seeing your Doctor and telling them that you've been using colloidal silver as a facial toner.
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Mon May 28, 2012 5:26 am      Reply with quote
TheresaMary wrote:
I also use colloidal silver when I have it, and its fine to use as a toner. When its used to turn the skin blue, its taken most times orally and even then it requires vast amounts to be taken. Over here in the UK, many times in the Victorian period people drank it frequently believing they would have health benefits.

Helen Sher who looks fantastic for her age and is in her late 70s recommends her own brand of collodial silver as a toner in her system, so there are some out there who don't follow your thinking you know.

Having used it on and off for the last 6 years, and never having had my skin turn blue, I'd say its definitely been a fantastic toner. This thread has reminded me to get some more and mix it with my rosewater toner (which I love the smell of!).

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VeronicaM wrote:
miss mei wrote:
I use colloidal silver, it comes in a litre bottle from the health food shop. It's cheap and fantastic! I have acne prone skin and like the antibacterial properties of it. I use it day and night. You can also use it to set powdered makeups.


I read about a man who ingested colloidal silver, and his skin permanantly turned blue.


Right. This isn't a way of thinking, it's a fact. And you can't argue with fact. Just because your skin hasn't turned blue, does not mean that someone somewhere will not develop this side effect if they read this thread or your post and start using colloidal silver as a toner. (Argyria is a debilitating life altering skin condition!) Yes it has antibacterial properties, but the risk FAR outweighs the benefit of using silver, and there are many MANY alternatives to topicals that have antibacterial properties that run NO risk of turning your skin blue. (How about Salicylic acid for one??) And yes TheresaMary, using silver topically CAN turn skin gray-blue.

Here is what Paula Begoun says about silver:

Metallic element that in cosmetics can have disinfecting properties; however, prolonged contact can turn skin grayish blue. Silver can be irritating to skin, and can cause silver toxicity (Sources: Annals of Dermatology and Venereology, February 2002, pages 217–219; and Critical Reviews in Toxicology, May 1996, pages 255–260).

link: http://www.cosmeticscop.com/cosmetic-ingredient-dictionary/definition/1351/silver.aspx

And here is what Paula Begoun says about the cream "Silver Sulfadiazine" used for 2nd and 3rd degree burns (which I gave a link to something about in my first post):

Can be effective for wound healing (Source: Journal of Vascular Surgery, August 1992, pages 251–257). However, it is safe for skin only for short-term use because silver can penetrate abraded skin and cause silver toxicity (Source: Clinical Chemistry, February 1997, pages 290–301).

link: http://www.cosmeticscop.com/cosmetic-ingredient-dictionary/definition/1353/silver-sulfadiazine.aspx

If someone with acne uses colloidal silver as a toner, and some of their acne is considered to be an open wound, they very much run the risk of silver toxicity.

Many people read this board. I repeat, this is not safe to do. If you are looking for a topical antibacterial toner, there are many others that do not run the risk of Argyria.

Here are some more links to Argyria.

http://whatstheharm.net/colloidalsilver.html

Read Rosemary Jacobs page:

http://rosemaryjacobs.com/

Type Argyria into Pubmed if you want to read more.
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