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Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:41 am  |
I love semi-DIY. Many of us take a ready made product and tweak it out with a few ingredients to make it more effective.
Check these out:
Rainwater Botanicals Nourishing Facial Cream with Carrot and Pumpkin Ingredients: Distilled Water, Organic Aloe, Vegetable Emulsifying Wax, Organic Geranium Water, Organic Rose Water, Organic Lavender Water, Wild Shea Butter, Organic Helichrysum Extract, Organic Pumpkin Seed Oil, Vegetable glycerin, Organic Plum Oil, Pomegranate Oil, Aspen Bark Extract(natural preservative), Carrot Seed Oil, Olive Squalane, Rosemary Extract, Lactic Acid, Essential Oils of Rose, Carrot, and Helichrysum, Organic MSM(organic sulfur compound)
Garden of Wisdon Enhanced Calendula Cream Ingredients: Liposome Base (soy based), Calendula Hydrosol, Calendula Blossom Extract, Hyaluronic Acid, Tamarind Fermentation, Calendula Infused Oil, Sunflower Oil, Ceremides
What bases do you guys use? |
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42! Currently using: NCN All-in-One, Mito-Q cream, Eviron AVST, Osea, Grateful Body. Wouldnt be without: Rhassoul clay, avocado oil, Glorybe Herbals hydrosols and perfume oils |
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Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:30 pm |
I prefer Daler's and Fawnie's approach. Far better serum or lotion in the end with out grits and bits that are not sufficiently incorporated into the 'base'. Requires the same amount of time anyways.
Distilled Water, Aloe barbadensis (Organic Aloe) Juice, Rice bran oil(Oryza sativa),Organic virgin coconut oil(Cocos nucifera), vegetable glycerin, Cetostearyl alcohol, and Ethoxylated Sorbitan Ester(emulsifying wax), Stearic acid, Gluconolactone (and) Sodium Benzoate, vanilla absolute, natural vanillin and refractionated coconut oil,Theobroma cacao organic (Cocoa) seed butter, Organic rooibos(Aqua, Organic Alcohol, Organic Aspalathus linearis (Rooibos) Extract), Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter) Fruit , Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Sodium Hyaluronate, MSM Dimethyl Sulfone (DMSO), Citrus Aurantium Bergamia (Bergamot) Fruit Oil , Limnanthes Alba (Meadowfoam) Seed Oil , Cannabis Sativa Seed Oil , Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Extract , lCitrus Medica Limonum (Lemon) Peel Oil, Frankincense Oil Olibanum,Xanthan Gum .
http://www.etsy.com/listing/88513672/body-lotion-8oz-natural-vegan
However that one..is really nice. |
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:56 am |
Yes, I am sure that it is easy to make but some people do not want to make a base - and prefer a *good* pre-base as a starting point. Hence, the topic of the thread.
For example, the bases in my first post have a lot of great oils and extracts. I am not in a position where I want to purchase all the individual ingredients that is needed to recreate it.
So, let's post DIY bases in another thread.
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42! Currently using: NCN All-in-One, Mito-Q cream, Eviron AVST, Osea, Grateful Body. Wouldnt be without: Rhassoul clay, avocado oil, Glorybe Herbals hydrosols and perfume oils |
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:45 am |
A lot of the brands named here are impossible for me to find where I live.
So I solved the semi-DIY problem by looking for a cream or lotion, any brand, house brands are often quite OK, that have an ingredient I like and cannot DIY. Like right now my moisterizer has hydroxyproline in it, it was quite high in the ingredient list (above the glycerine) and I added my own goodies to that. |
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:01 am |
ERG
You are soo right. I just dont have the time, nor the proper tools (and yes they probably are easy to get hold of) to start from scratch.
With two children, two puppies, and one geriatric dog ( and a DH who is away half the time) I just about have my own time to do Kassy"S wonderful serum (C E and ferulic) and that is about at 1am
And sometimes I dont even have the energy or the inclination  |
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:05 am |
Exactly 10Sylvia5!
I just want good starting point and add actives to suit.
On the dermarolling thread, I posted that I am thinking of using Skin Actives Antioxidant Booster and add in some A and C for post rolling.
That is the kind of DIY I have time for!
I'd love to hear of any other good pre-made bases out there! |
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42! Currently using: NCN All-in-One, Mito-Q cream, Eviron AVST, Osea, Grateful Body. Wouldnt be without: Rhassoul clay, avocado oil, Glorybe Herbals hydrosols and perfume oils |
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:04 am |
| erg wrote: |
Exactly 10Sylvia5!
I just want good starting point and add actives to suit.
On the dermarolling thread, I posted that I am thinking of using Skin Actives Antioxidant Booster and add in some A and C for post rolling.
That is the kind of DIY I have time for!
I'd love to hear of any other good pre-made bases out there! |
Canvas base of skinactives is good, it contains lots of solvent so you can add quite a bit of actives in it.... |
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:06 pm |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| daler wrote: |
| erg wrote: |
Exactly 10Sylvia5!
I just want good starting point and add actives to suit.
On the dermarolling thread, I posted that I am thinking of using Skin Actives Antioxidant Booster and add in some A and C for post rolling.
That is the kind of DIY I have time for!
I'd love to hear of any other good pre-made bases out there! |
Canvas base of skinactives is good, it contains lots of solvent so you can add quite a bit of actives in it.... |
Glad to have you add that Thanks daler!  |
canvas base used to be my primary base cream, I used it for couple of years! and it's soo not expensive, $6 for 4 oz! Before that I used atopalm as a base and it was expensive! |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:19 pm |
I posted it above along with Juice beauty Serums as I know Kassy has used it for semi-DIY!
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Is Cerave PM lotion not good as a base cream?
INGREDIENTS:
PURIFIED WATER
GLYCERIN
CAPRYLIC/CAPRIC TRIGLYCERIDES
NIACINAMIDE
BEHENTRIMONIUM METHOSULFATE AND CETEARYL ALCOHOL
CETEARETH-20 AND CETEARYL ALCOHOL
CERAMIDE 3
CERAMIDE 6-II CERAMIDE 1
PHYTOSPHINGOSINE
HYALURONIC ACID
CHOLESTEROL
DIMETHICONE
POLYGLYCERYL-3 DIISOSTEARATE
POLYGLYCERYL-3 DIISOSTEARATE
DIPOTASSIUM PHOSPHATE
SODIUM LAUROYL LACTYLATE DISODIUM EDTA
METHYLPARABEN
PROPYLPARABEN
CARBOMER
XANTHAN GUM |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:17 pm |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| I posted it above along with Juice beauty Serums as I know Kassy has used it for semi-DIY! |
DM, do you know what she adds to that? |
My assumption is that the niacinamide is loaded at about 2%, so I just kick it up a notch (a la Emeril  ), and I also like to add a little oil to my CV products. |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:37 pm |
Beauty Without Cruelty Vitamin C with CoQ10 Renewal Cream -- 2 oz .. about $15.
Ingredients: Purified water, aloe barbadensis (aloe) leaf juice*, glycerin, magnesium ascorbyl phosphate, polysorbate-60, cetearyl alcohol, helianthus annuus (sunflower) seed oil*, stearic acid, glyceryl monolaurate, ethyl hexyl palmitate, linum usitatissimum oil (flax seed)*, rosa canina (rosehip) oil*, anthemis nobilis (chamomile) extract*, calendula officinalis (calendula) extract*, cucumis sativus (cucumber) extract*, camellia sinensis (green tea) leaf extract, theobroma cacao (cocoa) seed butter*, citrus aurantium (neroli) oil*, citrus aurantium (sweet orange) oil*, cananga odorata essential (ylang ylang) oil, lavandula hybrida (lavandin) oil*, anthemis nobilis (chamomile) oil*, butyrospermum parkii (shea) butter, prunus dulcus (sweet almond) oil, calophyllum inophyllum (tamanu) oil, squalane**, co-enzyme Q10, tocopherols, panthenol, tocopherol acetate, hydrolyzed soy protein, soy lecithin, allantoin, glyceryl stearate, dimethicone, phenoxyethanol, ethyl hexyl glycerin, benzyl alcohol.
31% Organic Content
I decant 1oz of the cream at a time, add the following actives after solubizing in the appropriate medium, and re package in a different container for daily use.
7% Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate (oil sol)
2% CoQ10 (oil sol)
2% Pro-Vitamin B5 (water sol)
2% Dimethyl Isosorbide (DMI) (water sol) |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:09 pm |
Green Tea & Pomegranate Night Cream, 2 fl oz (59 ml).. About $8. comes in a tube which I love!
Ingredients: De-ionized water, aloe vera (aloe barbadensis) leaf gel*, caprylic/capric triglyceride, cetyl/stearyl alcohol blend and glucoside, vegetable glycerine, glyceryl stearate, stearic acid (vegetable source), sweet almond oil, cetyl alcohol, glucose/glucose oxidase/lactoperoxidase (natural preservative), ceteareth-20, shea butter, soy lecithin, natural pomegranate essence, potassium sorbate, xanthan gum, green tea liquid extract (made form organic green tea*), pomegranate liquid extract, d-alpha tocopherol (vitamin E), retinyl palmitate (vitamin A), Ascorbic Acid (vitamin C) and chamomile liquid extract.
* Certified Organic ingredients
To this lovely concoction I decant 1oz and add the following:
1% retinyl palmitate
2% white peony tea extract
2% green tea extract
2% pomegranate seed oil
2% meadowfoam seed oil
0.2% disodium EDTA |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:35 pm |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| Come on now give us Brands and Links! |
No way! Every time I do that, the price goes up and it's always sold out when I need it...
It's so easy to find it. Especially for you! (The 'google' queen... ) |
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♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:55 pm |
| Kassy_A wrote: |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| I posted it above along with Juice beauty Serums as I know Kassy has used it for semi-DIY! |
DM, do you know what she adds to that? |
My assumption is that the niacinamide is loaded at about 2%, so I'd just kick it up a notch (a la Emeril ), and I also like to add a little oil to my CV products. |
This is the CV product I use as a rule; (I just realized you were talking about the 'PM Moisturizer'.)
CeraVe Moisturizing Lotion 12 fl oz (355 ml)
Water (Purified), Glycerin, Capric/Caprylic Stearic Triglyceride, Behentrimonium Methylsulfate/Cetearyl Alcohol, Ceteareth 20, Ceramide 3, Ceramide 6 11, Ceramide 1, Hyaluronic Acid, Cholesterol, Dimethicone, Polysorbate 20, Polyglyceryl 3 Diisostearate, Potassium Phosphate, Dipotassium Phosphate, Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Disodium EDTA, Phytosphingosine, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Carbomer, Xanthan Gum
Things I've used with it without any issue at different times;
niacinamide
MSM
CoQ10
Lactic Acid
Retinyl Palmitate
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Matrixyl 3000
Caviar Extact
Sodium PCA
Some favorite oils
most botanicals
I'm a huge CeraVe fan! |
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♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:49 pm |
| daler wrote: |
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Get to know which actives specifically, will address your concerns, and then hunt down the products that already contain the actives you want to use... If you just keep it to say 2 actives at 1st, you can just buy the 'raw' material and add it to the product to give you the optimal percentage for that active.
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This is a great advice Kassy, but I always wonder if the actives in a base cream would be any good by the time I get to use this product after it has been sitting on the self for months! |
Exactly! That's why it's always good to have the 'raw' ingredient on hand... No more wishin' and hopin' and thinkin' and prayin'... |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:46 pm |
IMO do not just add powders directly to creams, certainly not if they are potential irritants/ powerful actives. Many years ago I trained in hospital pharmacy and one of the trainee tasks was adding a tiny amount of a fluorescent yellow powder to a white cream base. The only way to get a completely even blend without losing the active (was to spend a good half an hour with a glass tile and spatula, adding a little of the powder to a little of the cream. Making sure all the powder ended up in the cream was interesting even without windows and doors to the outside - that stuff stained!
The alternative is to weigh out your powder, add a little solvent (sterile water, alcohol) directly to the weighing boat then add the dissolved liquid to your cream. This is quicker, easier to get an even blend, conserves the active and means your cream is exposed to the air for less time. If you want to add a few actives you would be safest finding a supplier of a product that is designed to be a cosmetic base, or the plainest mosturiser you can find in the pharmacy. |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:26 pm |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| I have added Astaxanthin to a few ready made creams in the past and it is very orange straight from the gel cap, but it mixed like a dream just using a simple plastic cosmetic spatula! My cream did have a pretty peach color but that was not noticeable on my skin. |
regarding astaxanthin, if the gel caps is 4mg or even 10 mg astaxanthin, its almost colorless but if its v bright red/orange, then coloring has been added to the gel cap.. I just recently found this out! I use swansonvitamins gel caps and it used to be bright red inside and this time it was almost colorless so I called up em n they told me that they no longer add the red color! |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:31 pm |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| daler wrote: |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| I have added Astaxanthin to a few ready made creams in the past and it is very orange straight from the gel cap, but it mixed like a dream just using a simple plastic cosmetic spatula! My cream did have a pretty peach color but that was not noticeable on my skin. |
regarding astaxanthin, if the gel caps is 4mg or even 10 mg astaxanthin, its almost colorless but if its v bright red/orange, then coloring has been added to the gel cap.. I just recently found this out! |
Interesting Daler,
Oh well it sure was pretty! I will have to check any from now on, I got mine at a health food store?  |
yes, just read the " other ingredients" and you may very well see the coloring, I believe it's name started with a " c" ... |
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:18 pm |
Chances are we're better off eating those 'apple stem cells', but as requested, here's my contribution.
I hunted and hunted till I found the perfect product to use as a base. It's cheap, but has an impressive ingredient list that I love.
Andalou Fruit Stem Cell Night Repair (1.70oz @ $16.19 U.S.);
http://www.luckyvitamin.com/buy/products/63203-andalou-naturals-fruit-stem-cell-night-repair-cream-1-7-oz.html
Ingredients:
Aloe Barbadensis Juice*, Aqua, Vegetable Glycerin, Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate (Vitamin C), Polysorbate 60, Cetearyl Alcohol, Theobroma Cacao (Cocoa) Butter*, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Oil*, Ethylhexyl Palmitate, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Hydrolyzed Soy Protein, Palmitoyl Tripeptide-3, Palmitoyl Tripeptide-1, Malus Domestica (Apple), Solar Vitis (Grape) and Vaccinium Myrtillus (Bilberry) Fruit Stem Cell Cultures and BioActive 8 Berry Complex*, Ubiquinone (CoQ10), Resveratrol, Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Linum Usitatissimum (Flax) Oil*, Hyaluronic Acid, Borago Officinalis (Borage), Persea Gratissima (Avocado) and Rosa Canina (Rosehip) Oils*, Olive Squalane, Fagus Sylvatica (Beech) Extract, Oenothera Biennis (Evening Primrose) Oil*,Camellia Sinensis (White Tea), Aspalathus Linearis (Rooibos), and Hibiscus Rosa-Sinensis Extracts*†, Allantoin, Mangifera Indica (Mango) Butter, Phenoxyethanol, Ethylhexylglycerin, Symphytum Officinale (Comfrey) Extract
I added/increased;
- 2% CoQ10
- 2% Fruit Extract (from Lotioncrafter)
- 3% Malus Domestica (Apple) 2 to 5% recommended (eh  )
- 5% Matrixyl3000 (3 to 8% recommended)
- 2% Meadowfoam Seed Oil
- 1% DMI
- 2% Pumpkin Seed Extract
- Couple drops Germaben 2 (preservative)
1.) CoQ10 into the oil that I heat gently
2.) Everything else into a TBS distilled water, stirring each addition in well
3.) Put 1 and 2 together, blend well, put in container of your choice.
Makes just about 2oz. I put mine in 1oz airless pump containers. Here's what it looks like.
**NOTE** The addition of CoQ10 is what turned the serum yellow!
The retail cream has an insignificant amount of co q 10, so it is white... (You'll find that is the case for most retail products, whether they are $20. or $200.) If your product isn't yellow/orange, you got punked... |
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♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:39 pm |
Love it!
And the price can not be beat!
Thanks so much!
I  Semi-DIY |
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42! Currently using: NCN All-in-One, Mito-Q cream, Eviron AVST, Osea, Grateful Body. Wouldnt be without: Rhassoul clay, avocado oil, Glorybe Herbals hydrosols and perfume oils |
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:26 pm |
| Kassy_A wrote: |
| erg wrote: |
Love it!
And the price can not be beat!
Thanks so much!
I Semi-DIY |
You're welcome 'erg', I love it too! |
It looks divine Kassy,
Not just good enough to use but good enough to eat! |
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Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:41 pm |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| Kassy_A wrote: |
| erg wrote: |
Love it!
And the price can not be beat!
Thanks so much!
I Semi-DIY |
You're welcome 'erg', I love it too! |
It looks divine Kassy,
Not just good enough to use but good enough to eat! |
LOL! One of the grandkids were here when I whipped it up, and he thought I was making banana pudding..
Turns out I'm really enjoying this lotion.. Sinks in quickly and thoroughly. (The cream as purchased was too thick for my taste.)
Nice ingredients for sure. |
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♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:42 pm |
Just buy a base cream and actives, find a solubility chart so you'll know what to use to dissolve your dry ingredients and add and stir. Maybe try a kit first, so you'll get a good product and learn a lot along the way.
Skin Actives has base creams. But your own regular moisturizer that has nothing in it that you're allergic to can do just as well. If things get too runny, maybe a little lecithine or gel maker is nice to have on hand to fix it.
Just play! |
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Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:15 pm |
| Lotusesther wrote: |
Just buy a base cream and actives, find a solubility chart so you'll know what to use to dissolve your dry ingredients and add and stir. Maybe try a kit first, so you'll get a good product and learn a lot along the way.
Skin Actives has base creams. But your own regular moisturizer that has nothing in it that you're allergic to can do just as well. If things get too runny, maybe a little lecithine or gel maker is nice to have on hand to fix it.
Just play! |
I love that lotus "Just Play" that is what we all need to remember! |
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