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Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:32 am  |
I don't smoke. I have these awful line above my top lip. I use HA, emu oil. Retin a, and so on and so on.
Can you give me some tips. |
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:39 pm |
| Check out the Lips2Kiss thread in the Product Review board. Lots of people have had success diminishing or getting rid of lip lines using those products. |
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:25 pm |
| I second the lips2kiss recommendation. Tons of rave reviews about the system. They have a product called ULLE (Upper lip line eliminator) that is suppose to work wonders. |
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Blonde hair, fair skin normal to dry with oily T-zone, Clarisonic, IFP bha/aha combo, Vivier Kine-C, Lips2kiss system, JB ADCE |
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:41 pm |
| I have used this product. I must say I was not impressed. You have to put a blow dryer up to your face. Very drying. Not for me. Is that the only thing that people seem to use? |
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:44 pm |
| I'm sorry. I don't know of anything else. I'll be curious to see what others say. Good luck. |
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:04 pm |
| sherryf13500 wrote: |
| I have used this product. I must say I was not impressed. You have to put a blow dryer up to your face. Very drying. Not for me. Is that the only thing that people seem to use? |
Dermarollers can work wonders for lip lines! Don't get scared away by the scary picture - look at the rest instead 
http://www.dermogenesis.com/roll-cit/Clinics_of_N_Am_2005.pdf |
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:00 pm |
Oh good grief, that picture is INSANE! I dermaroller some part of me every night -- I have yet to do anything but get a little pink -- with noticeable results in firming and looking healthier. Bleeding and bruising? Not necessary. At all.
Those pictures should be outlawed. |
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tenderlovingwork.com, astonishing handmade gifts |
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:23 pm |
On Cupping thread Eleni wrote that she uses cupping for lines around mouth:
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I“ve been "cupping" every morning in the last 5 years and it gave me back 10 years. You use it with oil and for me it“s part of the OCM in the morning. It tightens pores, cleans them out and fights sagging skin. Some independent tests proved that it visibly reversed lines around the mouth and between the eyes. Sounds odd, but cupping is very popular in Germany. Laughing
(I often think: my gosh, give Mrs. Merkel a Vaculifter!!! Very Happy ) |
Thread Cupping - For Skin Tightening!!!
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?tid=27735&start=0
I just got Cupping set. Cuddles had good results with WellBox (not on the face, she did not try face), and WellBox has attachment for the face too. |
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:46 pm |
Avoid drinking out of straws.
But if you can't, don't drink where you need to pucker, use it out of the side of your mouth. |
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Currently using PSF Castile Cleanser, Vit. C., 5% BHA, HA and jojoba, Clarasonic, .025% Retin-A. More to come I'm sure!! |
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:07 am |
| Cadia...thanks for posting that link on dermarolling. I have been doing this for a couple of months and needed some good documentation to keep me going. Of course I realize my 1.5 roller is not going to produce the results that the big guns (2.0 and up) might do...but I'm going to keep at it. I'm working on my lip lines too! |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:40 am |
| mountaingirl wrote: |
| Cadia...thanks for posting that link on dermarolling. I have been doing this for a couple of months and needed some good documentation to keep me going. Of course I realize my 1.5 roller is not going to produce the results that the big guns (2.0 and up) might do...but I'm going to keep at it. I'm working on my lip lines too! |
Glad you liked it, Mountaingirl  And it's good to hear that you are still rolling. Don't worry about the length, I bet you'll get great results! Wasn't the transformation pictures amazing?  |
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:17 am |
| Which is better? The dermaroller or cupping/ |
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:04 pm |
I've had great success in getting rid of my lip lines by having collagen injected in them. I have a very tiny mouth and thin lips so I definitely didn't want to end up like a Lisa Rinna look-alike so initially I was a little concerned about getting injections. However, my therapist assured me that she would just put a little collagen into the lip line to strengthen it, then inject the tiny lines above my lips. She chose to use collagen and not Restylane etc. because the collagen is thinner and more pliable.
I have been having this done for about 12 months now and my lip lines are completely gone. I have it done about every four months and have found that the effects are cumulative. I also highly recommend the use of a dermaroller and Retin-A. |
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:51 pm |
| Keliu, I know this was discussed elsewhere, but I wanted to ask you, do you use the dermaroller and then apply the active or do you apply the active and then dermaroll? Thanks in advance. |
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:00 pm |
| rileygirl...I'll answer that one too. Roll first, then apply the active. I usually immediately apply "Lets Make Collagen" and wash that off after an hour and apply either Rose Hip Oil, Avacado Oil or Oat Beta Glucans. |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:07 pm |
| collagen injection sounds like the way to go. |
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:42 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| Keliu, I know this was discussed elsewhere, but I wanted to ask you, do you use the dermaroller and then apply the active or do you apply the active and then dermaroll? Thanks in advance. |
I use the roller first on freshly cleansed skin. Then I apply a mixture of Lets Make Collagen, Sea Kelp Bioferment and hyaluronic acid and use the Lightstim - I find the Lightstim really soothes the skin after rolling. Then I gently wipe the skin with a mild toner and apply Retin-A. |
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:17 pm |
| Thanks for the replies, mountaingirl and Keliu. Just 1 more question, what size roller do you both use? I just have the dermaroller from leaf and rusher. |
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:29 pm |
Cadia - Thank you for that link - wonderful article and pictures. I may just have to get me a dermaroller
Sis |
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:10 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| Thanks for the replies, mountaingirl and Keliu. Just 1 more question, what size roller do you both use? I just have the dermaroller from leaf and rusher. |
I use a 1.5mm roller. If you take a look at this thread http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?tid=22460 it will give you all the info you need. |
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:41 pm |
| I use AHA cleanser for face, at the same time I'd apply it on the lip then wash. I think it is helpful to remove deadskin on it. And daily apply the JMO lip calm. My lip actually looks very smooth. |
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:56 am |
I started on the Leaf and Rusher (.5mm) , then got a 1mm and now use a 1.5mm. I don't use anything to numb my face either!  Keliu...I couldn't remember who suggested using "Let's Make Collagen" --but now I know it was you. |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:50 am |
| sister sweets wrote: |
Cadia - Thank you for that link - wonderful article and pictures. I may just have to get me a dermaroller
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So happy you found it interesting, Sis The roller is an amazing tool and I'm sure you won't regret it.
Punching ones face with needles demands some conviction, but I have more great pictures so just let me know if you're in need of some more roller motivation |
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:32 am |
| I would love to see pictures of people on this board that have used this dermaroller and their results. |
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:53 am |
| i would agree with Keliu on the lip line filler. I used perlane on the outer rim of my lips, i didn't have any lines there but with the rim lined, it prevents them. when i make expressions that would normally show lines, there are none |
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