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Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:44 am  |
For those who know me from Tanaka massage will know my only complaint is having fine lines around my eyes. I have tried CP serum in the past, then Retin-A for a year, Retin-A has deepened my lines.
So finally, have read the books From Saeki, and have my own formula and it works:
I have tried for 2 months:
a.m. regime (after Tanaka massage + incorporate by pressing different spots from TCM)
- Sheisido eye base serum, gentle massage for few minutes
- wait for 3 mins (walk around and have a cup of tea)
- a thin layer of Valmont eye cream
- add a thin layer of Sheisido SPF eye base (it looks like a lip stick) then re-appling the eye stick whenever the area is dry.
- Re-apply La Praire eye gel (tap on top whenever too dry)
p.m. (after Tanaka massage + pressing spots)
- - Sheisido eye base serum, gentle massage for few minutes
- wait for 3 mins
- tap on Olay regenerist serum
- a thin layer of Valmont eye cream
- Re-apply Olay Regenerist serum until fully absorb
P.S. Products that I used from Olay and Sheisido are a special lines that only available China. |
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Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:49 am |
In additon to the above, I will do eye mask few times a week, will layer a lotion mask on top of eye mask. This works wonder and I can see the lines disappear right awawy.
Then, I will treat myself a 30-mins massage, focusing on eye area on every saturday, follow by eye mask & lotion mask.
My mom took a close look at me on Saturday (I helped her to massage too!) and she said, "Why you no longer have wrinkles around your eyes!" |
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Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:32 pm |
| critic wrote: |
For those who know me from Tanaka massage will know my only complaint is having fine lines around my eyes. I have tried CP serum in the past, then Retin-A for a year, Retin-A has deepened my lines.
So finally, have read the books From Saeki, and have my own formula and it works:
I have tried for 2 months:
a.m. regime (after Tanaka massage + incorporate by pressing different spots from TCM)
- Sheisido eye base serum, gentle massage for few minutes
- wait for 3 mins (walk around and have a cup of tea)
- a thin layer of Valmont eye cream
- add a thin layer of Sheisido SPF eye from Olay and Sheisido are a special lines that only available China. |
wow critic...i wish i could be as dedicated!  |
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32, medium skin, living in Hong Kong, have PCOS(currently trying naturopathy), moderate hormonal acne along jawline |
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:04 am |
| Wow, I wish I had so much time only for my eyes... (my skin would revolt if I'd put all those products on the same time...) |
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:49 am |
| I feel so relieved that more people are reporting an increase in lines/wrinkling from retinoinds. I remember when I reported more eye wrinkles from retinoids a quite a few years back on MakeupAlley, they made it seem like it was just dryness or all in my head, etc. etc. |
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:03 pm |
| critic wrote: |
In additon to the above, I will do eye mask few times a week, will layer a lotion mask on top of eye mask. This works wonder and I can see the lines disappear right awawy.
Then, I will treat myself a 30-mins massage, focusing on eye area on every saturday, follow by eye mask & lotion mask.
My mom took a close look at me on Saturday (I helped her to massage too!) and she said, "Why you no longer have wrinkles around your eyes!" |
Can you please tell me the name of the eye mask you are using? Thanks! |
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Fair with mild rosascea & combination skin (dry with oily t-zone) |
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:52 pm |
| Coconut wrote: |
| I feel so relieved that more people are reporting an increase in lines/wrinkling from retinoinds. I remember when I reported more eye wrinkles from retinoids a quite a few years back on MakeupAlley, they made it seem like it was just dryness or all in my head, etc. etc. |
I have done many researches here before starting Retin-A around my eyes, but they were getting worse each day, when I wanted to quit, some people said, "hold-on, you will see result soon." I was expecting it peels and the fine lines will disappear, end-up all fine lines change to wrinkles.
I absolutely did not see any result at all! And again, it's never one size fits all. |
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:55 pm |
| ScotsLass wrote: |
| critic wrote: |
In additon to the above, I will do eye mask few times a week, will layer a lotion mask on top of eye mask. This works wonder and I can see the lines disappear right awawy.
Then, I will treat myself a 30-mins massage, focusing on eye area on every saturday, follow by eye mask & lotion mask.
My mom took a close look at me on Saturday (I helped her to massage too!) and she said, "Why you no longer have wrinkles around your eyes!" |
Can you please tell me the name of the eye mask you are using? Thanks! |
I am using a Swiss product, La Colline. The price is similar as Valmont. |
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:57 pm |
| lotion mask around the eyes area really contribute a lot, I wish I should know it earlier. |
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:57 pm |
| Thanks, critic. I will take a look into this line since you've had such great results with the eye mask. |
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:57 am |
| ScotsLass wrote: |
| Thanks, critic. I will take a look into this line since you've had such great results with the eye mask. |
Don't waste money to invest on a new eye mask, use whatever you have and layer with a lotion mask will do! |
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:25 am |
Critic, what do you mean with "lotion mask" ?
Referring to the asnwer you gave to ScotLass you don't think the ingredients in La Colline made the change to your eyes, but any product would do - why do you think so ? |
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:54 am |
Hi critic,
did you ever try the micro version? I'm considering trying retin A, but am also prone to drying,
thanks
Jackie xx |
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:18 am |
Retrieve didnt make my eyes worse but it seems to do nothing at all for my crows feet.
Ive been using it for a yr and it hasnt even made the eye area peel like it does on other areas of my face. Which is a bit weird I thought.
So the search continues for something to help that area. |
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:30 am |
THANKS, HAVANA !
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:03 pm |
| critic wrote: |
| ScotsLass wrote: |
| Thanks, critic. I will take a look into this line since you've had such great results with the eye mask. |
Don't waste money to invest on a new eye mask, use whatever you have and layer with a lotion mask will do! |
Okay....am I to assume that you didn't have great results with the La Colline eye mask alone, and that the lotion mask on top of *any* eye mask is much more effective? If you don't think it is worth the money to buy the La Colline eye mask, then I certainly won't look into it any further.  |
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:22 pm |
| critic, how do your eyes look with NO products on them? Are they wrinkle/fine line-free with no products, or does it only look that way with the products on? |
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early 60's, fair skin, combo skin, very few fine lines, vertical lip lines, crows feet & 11's, fighting aging! Using Palancia HF, dermarollers, CPs, Retin A Micro, Safetox, AALS, Clairsonic |
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:24 pm |
| I know where you are going with this question, foxe, and was wondering the same thing! |
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:26 pm |
| ScotsLass wrote: |
| critic wrote: |
| ScotsLass wrote: |
| Thanks, critic. I will take a look into this line since you've had such great results with the eye mask. |
Don't waste money to invest on a new eye mask, use whatever you have and layer with a lotion mask will do! |
Okay....am I to assume that you didn't have great results with the La Colline eye mask alone, and that the lotion mask on top of *any* eye mask is much more effective? If you don't think it is worth the money to buy the La Colline eye mask, then I certainly won't look into it any further. |
I actually follow Saeki massage (very very gentle on the eye area) before using the eye mask, the lotion mask helps better pentrating the product into my skin, almost like absorbing. Honestly, really don't have to buy a new eye mask, just use whatever you got + lotion mask. |
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:28 pm |
| foxe wrote: |
| critic, how do your eyes look with NO products on them? Are they wrinkle/fine line-free with no products, or does it only look that way with the products on? |
wrinkle free if I don't laugh, see some very fine lines if I laugh.
Just look in the mirror, I am wearing light foundation today and can't see fine lines if I don't laugh. In the past, I had fine even I did not laugh whenever I was wearing foundation. |
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:24 pm |
| Jackie284 wrote: |
Hi critic,
did you ever try the micro version? I'm considering trying retin A, but am also prone to drying,
thanks
Jackie xx |
Jackie,
I used the Micro version, what is the difference? |
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:28 am |
| So glad that you figure out a routine that works well on your fine lines around the eyes. I'm really interested to check out the Olay regenerist serum that you mentioned. Do you think it also works for the fine lines at the forehead? |
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:49 am |
| critic wrote: |
| Jackie284 wrote: |
Hi critic,
did you ever try the micro version? I'm considering trying retin A, but am also prone to drying,
thanks
Jackie xx |
Jackie,
I used the Micro version, what is the difference? |
Hi critic,
I thought the micro was less drying?
Jacie xx |
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:34 pm |
| Jackie284 wrote: |
| critic wrote: |
Jackie,
I used the Micro version, what is the difference? |
Hi critic,
I thought the micro was less drying?
Jacie xx |
The micro can actually be More drying. It is for oily skin. The cream version is best for normal to dry skin types. |
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