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Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:10 pm  |
| skincarecat wrote: |
| bethany wrote: |
| Kassy recently bought a new unit...I'll ping her and see if she can update us on her thoughts, since I am interested as well. FYI that it had probes, gloves, and also patches I think. |
Thanks it is probably the Pico Toner I suspect..which is like $600....but I could be wrong, thanks so much for your help. I had my eye on that mini one for a while...the same one you gave me URL for. Maybe while i am deciding i will get that and go bigger soon. I have bought several not cheap things that I never use...and I dont want to do that again. NuFace or this little eye lifter I would use. lol. I gave up on LED cause my new hand held died, twice and it was expensive....I get mad at that. GRRRRR...lol
thanks again much, you are the best |
Kassy did not buy the Pico...I'll track down the link to what she bought. |
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Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:22 pm |
| I have a NuFace and use it for product penetration. I do think it did some lifting particularly in the forehead area and maybe gave an overall better look. NuFace is considered galvanic -- not true microcurrent. |
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Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:47 pm |
| skincarecat wrote: |
| sister sweets wrote: |
| I have a NuFace and use it for product penetration. I do think it did some lifting particularly in the forehead area and maybe gave an overall better look. NuFace is considered galvanic -- not true microcurrent. |
Thanks Sister Sweets
I feel like I will end up with one anyway...NuFace. I just feel like there will be something else right around the corner with better results...but I guess we all feel that way. I have been wanting NuFace for more than a year....I am patient, and don't have money to toss around. I may get a laser at one point...lol. In my next life.. |
Skincarecat (cute name!). what I am about to say is something I have thought hard about. If you buy a NuFace please get a second hand (ebay or similar one) ... I say this with utmost consideration of your money. I got mine used on ebay. In all good conscience the only thing I can recommend at full money for value is a Pico. I know it is not your budget just yet and I respect that. I won't go into detail. You can PM me if you want more. I just think you can get a NuFace at a good price and I wish you all the best. |
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Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:18 pm |
I found Kassy's post on what she bought, but she has not yet posted a review.
| Kassy_A wrote: |
I bought the little "Electrolast" as stated above, and although I like it, it is really best designed as a traveling device. It's especially effective (for me) in the eye area, and I do see a nice little lift to my brows.
In my search for trying to have it all in one (cheap) purchase, I just ordered this device last night off ebay;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICROCURRENT-ULTRASOUND-FACIAL-TONING-LIFTING-MACHINE-/220817195412?pt=US_Skin_Care&hash=item3369bb0194
I just couldn't resist wands, probes, gloves and ultrasound cozily packed together for $219. USD.
Sadly, I don't see any "specs" in the product description, but once I get it if it isn't up to par I can send it back. It does look fairly decent to me though, so I have my fingers crossed.
As much as I'm interested in the Pico Toner, I just cannot justify (in my head) $600 for the gloves alone.
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:10 am |
| ShastaGirl wrote: |
It's interesting how we all get different results. I have a Nuface Trinity and a PICO and neither do anything for me...other than reduce the bank account  No visible lift or improvement despite consistent use.
I wonder if some of us are just not good candidates for microcurrent?
My suggestion would be to go cheap or try professional treatments first and see if they work. Or get something that is returnable if it doesn't work for you. |
This! Very wise words. Microcurrent has been used in salons since the 70s, and to be honest was never this hugely popular. It has been getting a marketing boost as a natural facelift alternative, probably starting from salon owners needing a treatment add-on to hype up for extra sales, and it has caught on from there. We now have some home devices to capitalize on that, but it is not proven to have miraculous results (or even any) in every customer at all.
I absolutely agree that seeing the technology is so simple it really can run off a couple of batteries it is perfectly viable for people to try less expensive devices first. |
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Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:36 pm |
| daler wrote: |
on pico thread it has been suggested to ramp up the amp if one is not achieving results, they still call it MC.. ( just to clarify, I am not trying to be negative to pico, just saying what I think out loud) |
I understand, and I am not sure that I agree with it, since you run the risk of depleting the ATP. But I think Patricia sent out an email on that...I am going to pop over to the Pico thread and see what her opinion was. |
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Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:06 am |
I've posted this a few months ago on another forum when someone asked about home microcurrent devices. I have and use various microcurrent, EMS, and TENS home devices for different purposes. The study of frequency-specific therapies has evolved since the early 1900's and there are studies that show specific frequencies are effective for different treatments. For instance,
Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation (TENS): 20,000 - 80,000 microamps (20 - 80 milliamps) stimulates the nerves at the higher amperage to block pain and contract muscles at the lower amperage. TENS devices deliver milliamp currents and block pain messages and are used in many pain therapies. I use a TENS unit for back pain and on the few occasions when I've injured a muscle.
Electrical Muscle Stimulation (EMS): 8,000 - 20,000 microamps (8 - 20 milliamps). EMS is used for muscle contractions (think of resistance training). EMS devices deliver milliamp currents similar to TENS devices but each company/device may have different strengths and pulses. I use EMS devices to fine tune muscles -- I use the Facemaster and BMR Facial Toner (Slendertone) instead of doing facial exercises and the Flex Belt suite of devices for abs, tush, and arms as adjuncts to my regular exercises.
Microcurrent: 0 - 8000 microamps (or 0 - 8 milliamps). ATP production occurs in the 20 - 500 microamps range (or 0.02 - 0.5 milliamps) -- this is the range that rejuvenates soft tissue. Not all of the home microcurrent devices are really in this range. I believe only NuFace has publicly revealed their technical specs. NuFace ranges from 0 - 500 microamps (in the ATP production range) -- and I did confirm by calling Isomers that the Nutritone is also in the 0-500 microamps range. Facemaster and Serious Skincare EGG are sold as microcurrent devices which means that they should technically be in the 0 - 8000 microamps (8000 microamps = 8 milliamps) -- both Facemaster and EGG have multiple intensity settings so the lower intensities could well be in the ATP production range -- or above ATP production range at the higher intensities. I use both Isomers Nutritone and the Facemaster Platinum.
Again, each frequency serves different purposes. If you think of ATP production = improvement in soft tissues, then you want the lower microamps (under 500 microamps). The reason I use multiple devices is to target the different signs of aging -- Nutritone helps with firming the soft tissues (skin), the Facemaster and BMR Facial Toner work on the underlying facial muscles, and I use massage and topicals (including Retin-A) to keep the skin tight and healthy. Each product has it's role -- it's important to understand what you want to accomplish. |
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Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:06 pm |
On the Pico thread someone mentioned creating a similar device, and this one does seem to be micro current, and is pretty inexpensive going for less than $50 at several online stores, here is the write up:
The InTENSity Micro Combo is the microcurrent device you have been looking for. This tens unit has 2 waveforms, microcurrent and TENS. There are 4 modes of TENS and the microcurrent is adjustable from 0 to 700uA.
Brand: Current Solutions
Name: Micro combo
Uses: Transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation (TENS) and microcurrent are non-invasive, drug-free methods of controlling pain.
Materials: Plastic, electronics
Model: DI9698
Wave Form: Monophasic square
Pulse Rate: 1-150 Hz
Tens pulse width: 50-300us
Microcurrent pulse width: 2-200mS
Output Voltage: Constant current
Tens current: 0-100mA
Microcurrent current: 0-700ua
Tens modes: 4
Microcurrent modes: 3
Timer: 1-60 constant
Package includes stimulator, lead wires, 4 self-stick high quality premium electrodes, 9V battery, AC adapter, hard plastic carrying case, instruction booklet
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