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Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:41 am  |
Hi everyone, it has been ages since I have posted here.
Please share your recommendations to help me get rid of the lines I have that go from the corners of my mouth downward. Please help I getting desperate! |
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:55 am |
| Fillers like Juvederm or Restylane. There is also a surgery for uplifting the corners of the mouth. |
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:11 pm |
| Welcome Salli, I had juvederm over a year ago and it worked really well,I'm a smoker and at the Dr.office they said it might not last as long for me,but so far its been 1 year and 2months,but I do understand that some it doesn't last very long and other it does. |
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:41 pm |
hi salli,
excuse my bluntness but i see that you're mature like myself, and am sure you're experienced with many topical products. myself, am using valmont and it has done wonders for me.
what i included in my anti aging skincare is facial massage... do-it-yourself-at-home facial lymphatic drainage massage performed twice a day, during the morning and evening cleansing routine, and it takes minutes. many members are getting wonderful results, and some instantaneous. it is here on the EDS forum under DIY.
the tanaka massage is free, easy, highly effective, and natural. i highly recommend.
good luck! |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:19 pm |
| llina, I've looked at the tanaka massage and it did look interesting. I do have a few questions. Does it stretch the skin much? How long does it take to start seeing results? Thanks. |
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:15 pm |
| salli wrote: |
| llina, I've looked at the tanaka massage and it did look interesting. I do have a few questions. Does it stretch the skin much? How long does it take to start seeing results? Thanks. |
you're really not stretching the skin but massaging the underneath muscle (muscle of the face). you're stimulating the skin lightly, helping your face to detox naturally... as you follow along the lymphatic drain system.
i'm not an expert nor experienced at this. i'm just beginning.
i'm sure if you go to the thread someone will help u there.
i had results in a couple of weeks. my best friend had immediate results. 
HTH |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:37 pm |
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=36457
that is the thread. there is an original that was monsterously long and confusing because it was a combination of 2 methods... and we all had problems understanding japanese.
why i like this massage, is because i believe it really works. besides that fact that it is natural and free, this is something that i add to my skincare routine. something that i can control how frequent, when i need it, and at what strength (lightly or harder).
to me, this massage is a bonus to quality topical porducts and beauty gadgets.  |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:25 pm |
Well salli you would be doing yourself a favor by not purchasing anything! Sadly there is NOTHING to remove lines, nothing, no cream, lotion, potion. You can use any moisturizer to make them LOOK BETTER, but really thats about it. They won't remove any of your lines. You could use a filler, but thats always noticeable. Other than use of a good sunblock to prevent further lines down the road, I don't know what else to say. Sorry.  |
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:01 pm |
| SusieQ wrote: |
| Well salli you would be doing yourself a favor by not purchasing anything! Sadly there is NOTHING to remove lines, nothing, no cream, lotion, potion. You can use any moisturizer to make them LOOK BETTER, but really thats about it. They won't remove any of your lines. You could use a filler, but thats always noticeable. Other than use of a good sunblock to prevent further lines down the road, I don't know what else to say. Sorry. |
don't be sorry... we need everyone's honest opinion. we all appreciate your opinion and experience.
i'm sorry those product and potions didn't work for you.
did anything work for you? are you using any gadgets/massages/ facial treatments? |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:18 pm |
| Creams,lotions and potions did not work on my pesky lines. My face looked tired and worn out all the time. So I got Juvederm about a year and a half ago and since I am loosing weight I probably will need another treatment soon. I was lucky enough to find a really good doc., and it looked so natural that my husband who notices everything did not notice! For me it was worth every penny and more! |
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:49 pm |
The lines that run from the corner of the mouth to the chin are commonly referred to as marionettes - because they make you look like a puppet!
These are the hardest lines to get rid of because they are basically caused by facial sagging and loss of volume. I have them too and I absolutely HATE them. Getting a filler in the cheeks can help, because that can provide a little structure to the face. Unfortunately, the line formed by the marionettes is the most difficult to fill and results can vary. I've had it done a number of times and have not been happy with the results. I think it takes a very experienced person to place filler here properly.
Some people on the Forum have claimed good results from facial exercise, but this hasn't worked for me either. |
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Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:53 pm |
hey salli,
you're a very lucky girl indeed...
i see all the more experienced members giving you their hard tired and true tested feedback.
yay! lets hear more! |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:52 am |
| Given the spotty results of the Juvederm regarding these lines, I think I'll give exercise a try and see if I can't at least lessen them a bit or at the very least prevent them from worsening. Would anyone be willing to make a recommendation on which program works best for this particular problem? |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:54 am |
| salli wrote: |
| Given the spotty results of the Juvederm regarding these lines, I think I'll give exercise a try and see if I can't at least lessen them a bit or at the very least prevent them from worsening. Would anyone be willing to make a recommendation on which program works best for this particular problem? |
good choice!
there a tons of exercises in the DIY category of this forum. if you can't find them i'll send the link later.
all the best! |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:03 am |
| llina, I've just spent two hours trying to find what you are talking about. Would you be kind enough to please post the link for me. Thanks. |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:14 am |
| salli wrote: |
| llina, I've just spent two hours trying to find what you are talking about. Would you be kind enough to please post the link for me. Thanks. |
sure sweetie.
are you looking for facial exercises or massages or both? |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:15 am |
| salli wrote: |
| llina, I've just spent two hours trying to find what you are talking about. Would you be kind enough to please post the link for me. Thanks. |
salli,
i'm looking now in DIY... but i want to know if you're interested in gadgets too? not sure. |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:21 am |
salli,
facial exercises are listed below. please note i do not use them and have never tried. it seems there are threads promoting these exercises as they have found results, and there are some threads claiming it had deepened their wrinkles and/or made their face worse. as i have stated, i have NOT use these, so please proceed with caution...
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=36819
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=35301
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=34409
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=37051
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=33970
there are many more.
the EDS forum category is ...
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6&topicdays=0&start=0 |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:22 am |
| I already have gadgets! I have a DPL (love that thing for skin tone) and an old NuFace which I honestly think made things worse. |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:25 am |
| salli wrote: |
| I already have gadgets! I have a DPL (love that thing for skin tone) and an old NuFace which I honestly think made things worse. |
oh ok, i have the nuface too.
i'm sending the link for facial massage next. |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:27 am |
stilly looking and organizing my next post.
btw, do you have any led anti aging lights? |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:29 am |
this is a free facial exercise. there are many many more online. use google and search facial exercise.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=36868 |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:29 am |
| I don't believe so. I'm not familiar with anti-aging lights. |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:30 am |
these are periphery care...
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=36986
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=35661 |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:32 am |
this is what i use for facial massage/lymphatic drainage...blood flow and detox of the face, from this forum.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=36457
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=36458
for me, this works wonders! i love it! my best friend tried it and she absolutely looked different after the first time. it looked like she lost all that saggy meat hanging off of her jaw line. |
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to, cnd, 39, asian, dry&sensitive. products: valmont, givenchy, chanel, guerlain, dior, misc sothys&lush; mu: valmont, dior, chanel & mac; anti aging: diy facial massages, dr.ho's, assrt of EMS/TENS, wellbox, nuface, nuskin, tua viso, tua trend, babyQ, facemaster, oxylift, dermawand, life, suction, 8clarisonic, 2opal, magnassager, sonic,etc |
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